Poledra Val.1490

I am not sure how everyone else feels about this but there are several classes in pvp right now that can individually gain 25 might stacks in mere seconds and have huge duration on it. This in pvp globally needs to be toned down for the health of the game. I have no issues with 25 might being created for teammates and allies in a team fight but other then that I feel like Anet needs to address this. I am aware that Anet knows about this but it needs to be discussed how and in what manner it should be for a lack of a better word nerfed or fixed.

Yep my client hard crashed twice in one match for some reason, avoiding ranked is probably the way to go until they fix this.

It is hilarious that you consider this a problem when the percentage of people who have these gizmos are less then 1% of the pvp population. Which is infinitesimally smaller then the gw2 population as a whole.....to be blunt....it aint that important enough to be prioritized by Anet presumably I would guess at the moment. Good for you for pointing it out though i'm sure all 20-40 people between EU and NA are most moritfied with this most horrid of clipping issues.

Nobody is suggesting that thief should be removed from the game in fact its laughable that anyone should suggest it Anet would never sanction that. What frustrates everyone right now is the sheer number of people abusing condie thief. This class back in the day required a lot of skill to learn now its just a full blown gimmick and its up to Anet to at the very least fix bugs and nerf things which make pvp an absolute hell hole to play atm.

People are abusing this bug in there droves in pvp, its pretty crazy how one bug can make pvp matches so unhealthy.

Mods pls delete bug fixed.

I mean, didnt they just get 2 hotfix nerfs? Anet is not going to remove thief from the meta. Thief will ALWAYS be meta, forever and ever. Amen. Nope there have been no hotfixes yet, to those specific builds. No, go look at release notes. Deadly ambition was hit, half the stacks and double the cd. Staff 3 was bug fixed and initiative increased from 4 to 6.I stand corrected that is good news. Condie thief still needs to be adjusted though by a bit more imo i dont think its enough even the developer in his comment about Deadly ambition mentioned he doesent think it will be enough either.

I mean, didnt they just get 2 hotfix nerfs? Anet is not going to remove thief from the meta. Thief will ALWAYS be meta, forever and ever. Amen. Nope there have been no hotfixes yet, to those specific builds.

The sooner the abominations that condie thief and dodge thief is nerfed the healthier pvp will be, bottom line.

Been stuck in que for the last hour or so. EU servers.

ok that makes more sense I guess... They did nerf trap guardian because it was killing bronzes and silvers a little too easily.unfortunately giving these handouts to players doesn't encourage players to get better or to learn the basics. balance is different from person to person... balance to me is all classes being viable such as condi thief. balance to others is simply defined by what beats thier main or by what annoys them the most. Condie thief is not just viable its braindead broken honestly, I can accept viability in every class that is normal but when your talking about a build that specifically and consistently is being picked by the vast populace then you know there is something wrong there and quite clearly there is. so, nerf holo right?Since this thread is about the current Condie Thief iteration I wont comment to much on holo, obviously it needs some nerfs even people who play holos themsleves are aware of it.

ok that makes more sense I guess... They did nerf trap guardian because it was killing bronzes and silvers a little too easily.unfortunately giving these handouts to players doesn't encourage players to get better or to learn the basics. balance is different from person to person... balance to me is all classes being viable such as condi thief. balance to others is simply defined by what beats thier main or by what annoys them the most. Condie thief is not just viable its braindead broken honestly, I can accept viability in every class that is normal but when your talking about a build that specifically and consistently is being picked by the vast populace then you know there is something wrong there and quite clearly there is.

Lets be clear here, the bottom line is this. The condie thief build in general is just simply unhealthy for the game in PvP and is pure gimmick/busted/lazy on so many levels. You cant justify a build when you dodge and maybe press an extra button or two to be that effective or forward thinking for pvp, it sets a bad precedent. There are many players out there who I have seen who have played another class for years and have simply defaulted to Condie Thief because A: its effective and B: it probably has the lowest skill cealing of any build i have seen in years bar some Mesmer builds. Anet needs to nerf this abomination to the ground and then start working on doing some sort of "balance".

So erm Anet anytime now would be nice, condie thief is a plague and is unhealthy for pvp. The delay on nerfing this abomination is really quite astounding to me personally. Just my opinion.

I am literally astounded at the balance teams ineptitude to not nerf Condie thiefs in some manner. First of all its extremelly unhealthy for PvP and promotes extremelly lazy gameplay and I wont even get into how obnoxious it is. 95% of thieves run this build and they run it because its easy its simple and you just press 2 buttons. Extremelly dissapointed by Anets balance team. Just my opinion, have a nice day.

U basically just described every popular espec and it's most popular build lmao. This is gw2 remember? True but the ease of this build to use is honestly new levels of rediculousness.

This build is just a gimmick and it clearly carries terrible players to heights in pvp they have never been in before. It should be nerfed of course its literally one of the top 3 easiest things to use in pvp right now and is obviously effective. Its very counterproductive for a build to carry the player they dont really learn anything bar pressing 2-3 buttons. Once this build is nerfed you will witness an all mighty exodus of a huge percentage of thieves that will have there favorite toy taken away and will likely quit pvp or just move on to the next busted thing.

Unfortunately and I am sad to say this the level of interest in pvp this season has never been lower as is the population. Its extremelly telling how a platinum player is now consistently being put in a team with golds or lower in almost every match up. The win to loss ratio in terms of gaining points and losing them is now i feel out of date and MUST reflect the current populations numbers in pvp. In addition the pvp matches themselves even though have not been great for some time now in my opinion have never felt worse in terms of overall competitvness and quality. Its a sorry state of affairs and i am sorry to say this but Anet is completely responsibile for giving next to nothing in terms content to the pvp community. But you know the good news is were getting PvP armor......

You can just play Holo, maybe condie thief and then holo again how about some more condie thief?! Nah in all seriousness some decent advice from the above people.

To be blunt they could have easily saved themsevles some money and announced all of this in there own studios rather then create such a huge hype machine. Example: Start stream 3 days before, a whole auditorium for a living story new arc and some QoL announcments.....I mean im actually hugely dissapointed they angled it in such a way were i was expecting much more then this given all the "hype".

I am not gonna lie there was some nice tidy pieces of information there but all in all this was just a hugely glorified fanfare of a new living story arc. No expansions, no new elite specs etc. Overall dissapointing for me personally I am quite saddened because i love this great game and that whole over the top hype train they created was just for one glorified moment of talking about things we knew were coming, the potential of having templates and a new living story. What a shame.

I am not gonna lie there was some nice tidy pieces of information there but all in all this was just a hugely glorified fanfare of a new living story arc. No expansions, no new elite specs etc. Overall dissapointing for me personally I am quite saddened because i love this great game and that whole over the top hype train they created was just for one glorified moment of talking about things we knew were coming and a new living story. What a shame.

The situation for condie thief has become untenable in my opinion, the whole build is clearly as others have said extremelly easy to use and very effective with a little or no effort from the player that plays it. It is also highly counter productive to the health of pvp and its enjoyment. Can the majority of players playing pvp at the moment seriously admit they like facing something like this? The bottom line is this though, does Anet want to draw in new pvp players and increase an already declining population in pvp? Or will they leave it as it is a meme build (or builds like it) which is seriously ruining the enjoyment of anyone new or old attempting to play pvp. I still firmly belileve that gw2 pvp is the best that any mmo has to offer however when builds like this come to play you will consistently get new players that think to themselves....I either play the new current meme build because its busted/broken or just quit all together before they have even started. Its a shame that the balance team do not see this as an issue. Alas i have long given up of any kind of consistent "balance" that pvp has to offer after 8 years of gw2.

This is without the worst decision i have i seen Anet do in regards to pvp and i am entitled to my opinion here. For the life of me this map is not ready for ranked it needs to fixing in so many ways. People have already expressed there grievances about this map but Anet persists in introducing to what i feel is the worst designed pvp map in 8 years. I feel like there pushing this map into pvp for achievment hunters and nothing else.

Stuck in map selection along with a few others. EU