Spie.5024

Mirage (mesmer)

I’m also curious about ranger vs thief. Finished my legendary armor and gearing out the various Engi builds. I also don’t know which one to play for PvE next between ranger and thief. Mostly for open world farming, raids and maybe fractals 😃

I run this build for all my map comp stuff and I find it pretty well rounded as explained in the video. https://youtu.be/gy3A_PiM3ZI

New main for medium armour or any? Engi is the best medium class I guess. although both ranger and thief are fine as well I guess for pve?

I’m curious now so would you mind sharing builds for these that I can try to compare with scrapper for solo play? What gear traits and skills to run for each of the specs you recommended? Is it power or condi because condi doesn’t work well for certain core Tyria for example.

I still run scrapper in open world because I haven’t found a better option so far for solo play that isn’t only about soloing bounties. If I have to solo a bounty or a champion, I’d usually just go celestial or Viper mechanist but for mowing through trash, collecting stuff and doing general open world stuff on my own (not meta’s), I almost always default to a scrapper build with alchemy and elixir for quickness, blast and shredder gyro.

I have to say I was a bit sceptical about the holo build as I thought the dps would be way too gutted but it actually works dps wise but the toughness is definitely up there. good quality of life, easy survival, easy to play, no kits for those against using kits as mortar is just a nice addition but not where your main damage comes from 🙂 . I imagine with strength runes it would be even better but works with scholar as well. Edit: Tried it in exotic with strength runes and this build works fine for soloing champions. I think even the most stupid players can solo on this as it’s simply that tanky 🤣 Thumbs up from my side for the engineer one. Just like any build, you might have toplay around with skill slots for certain changes as this build specifically lacks stability and stun breaks when fighting for example Mayatl The Fierce.

Couldn’t agree more.

Power holosmith is fine though? Quickness scrapper is also decent

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I have as heal mechanist and while the group has to move around if you stack the golem properly inside the hit box and give it commands regularly , the 600 range works to give boons. Just during the CC phases, it can be difficult and moving up to the platforms is also difficult to keep up boons but you don’t need it for the weak enemies there.

Out of curiosity is it possible to do Condi quickness build on engineer? Like a sort of ritualist with nade kit and gyros build perhaps? Secondly how are the condi alac / condi power builds?

Agreed and besides that people are often bashing on other classes because it feels like their preferred class doesn’t match the ease of play, or just does different things

Agree on so many levels. The hate mechanist gets here from people who probably don’t even play engineer or haven’t played it before mechanist is insane. mechanist is indeed one of the most well rounded classes out there and all of their specs perform reasonably well so there’s no need to cry on the forums for pve at least but still people complain and make hyperbolic statements to nerf it but can’t pin what exactly should be nerfed, let alone why…..

I hope they see it’s actually fine and not overpowered. engi is in such a good spot for pve! it’s a fantastic time to play engi in pve

Engineer can also go quickness with barely any investment from the berserker gear that works for holosmith or bomb kit 1 holo spam? Go scrapper and slap on diviner rings and maybe amulet and you are good to go and it’s super easy to play as you just smash gyros off cooldown? Epidemic is indeed a niche for SH but and MO (statue) but that doesn’t make it as a whole the most flexible in the game. Difficulty wise, condi holosmith or core condi engineer were indeed hard to play / piano builds. Power holo is not that hard, heal mech not so hard either, condi mech not too hard either.

I still don’t understand why people advice necro over engineer for this type of question? Is it because of wvw? Cause if it’s for pve only I’m assuming engineer is more versatile right now than necro as it can do alacrity?

Now I wonder how you’d describe the other classes and how they’d stack up LoL

I would also add that in PvE I’m guessing you are likely to use sword in PvE fractals or raids so that’s melee again 🙂

I don’t know the exact range of the boon sharing on every class but this applies even to scourge who doesn’t share a ton of boons himself. You still want to be in the range of other group members to receive boons. So I just gave my opinion on what class has the best ranged weapons for end game in my opinion. However I agree you will still want to stack with the group!

There are a few classes that have ranged options. Specifically if it’s just for open world. if we are talking raids and fractals, the one class that comes to mind is Necro in my opinion. scourge and harbinger are both condi and ranged with scepter and pistol in case of harbinger. Other classes have ranged weapons but swap to a melee quite often. condi soulbeast can get away with shortbow only but that gets boring fast!

I see, yeah I also like Mesmer in open world from soloing bounties to Zerg farming with laser greatsword. it has made me consider picking Mesmer as my main for PvE in general but I’m not sure how they rate in versatility for the instanced or group content! 😅

Most versatile in general or specifically to solo champions?

What’s your expectation though? Bring these classes down or up the level of the others? Also, what classes are the best balanced / well designed from a PvE perspective in your opinion then?

If we consider all classes, and don’t exclude necro or guardian, would Rev still come out on top is the question. What is the most well rounded / designed / versatile class that isn’t likely to drop off at the smallest nerf?