Keitaro Dragonheart.9047

I haven't touched this game in two years because I grew sick and tired at the complete and utter ineptitude of the Balance Team. It's disheartening to return two years later and see that ArenaNet's balance team is still hilariously inept. Truly the worst balance team I've ever seen in any game, ever. I guess I'll extend my absence for another two years. Who knows, maybe by then, ArenaNet will hire someone who actually knows what they're doing...HA, like that'll ever happen.

At this point, it's safe to assume the people defending this poorly designed meta are little more than Elitest Gate Keepers who have already gotten their turtles. People who got lucky and have an inflated sense of superiority, purely through extreme luck, and not skill, and want to keep us peasants away from the turtle so they can feel important for once in their lives.

That's precisely what we've been doing for nigh on a decade. It's not our fault the Balance team at Anet is staffed entirely by chimpanzees.

Because now there's literally no reason to pick the skill over other heals, unless you use Shadow Arts. They may as well have deleted the skill from the game. A 40s cooldown heal, untraited? If you're not running Shadow Arts, it's now trash. All they've accomplished with these Thief changes, is forcing thief even further into SA. Anet once again proving that they either don't play their own game, or suffer from levels of ineptitude that cannot be measured by normal means. Maybe even both.

This, all of this. I have been saying this for a long time now. Today's gamers are so entitled, they feel like they should be given everything for free, with little to no regard for how hard the Devs have worked to deliver said content. Anet has been more than generous with their content since launch. You are not owed anything, nor do you have the right to demand anything for free. They're people, not slaves. (unrelated note; its a bout time the Gaming Industry got Unions.) Thank you for this post.

Warrior isn't Guardian or Necromancer, therefore, Anet doesn't care. That's the sad reality we find ourselves in. Edit: Oh hey, there's an idea; maybe if we paint our Warriors blue or green, Anet will finally notice us!

That's because once upon a time, I used to care about the debate and the balance. Meh, maybe I still care on some level; Thief is one of my three favorite classes. Or maybe it's only because I worry one of these days, Anet may actually take these people seriously. Looking at the state of Warrior (3rd favorite class), I'd say that's cause for concern. Anyways, all I did was summarize the thread for late comers. 😁

Nah, not so much anger as resignation. I've been reading threads like this since Headstart, 2012. And I've come across at least a dozen people who openly admit they just want the whole class deleted from the game. Just some friendly advice; quit while you're ahead. It'll save you a lot of headaches.

Well then, good for you. You're one of the very few reasonable people where thief is concerned. Unfortunately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're just banging your head against the wall. The people you're trying to convince, don't care.

Uh, because you quoted me...? And I read the whole post. If you meant the whole thread, then lol no. That'd be a waste of time. 11 Pages obstinate screaming about how teef is OP (and yet one of the least played classes in the game 🤔) None of these people want to hear about buffs or compensation; it's all about deleting things they don't like. I suppose I'll waste my breath and repeat what the reasonable people in this thread have already said; if you nerf shadow arts, then you should buff something else in compensation. Like 300cd traits, or rework acrobatics. Something. Edit: I'd also add that I wouldn't mind Shadow Arts being toned down. As long as Acrobatics gets the love it needs and deserves. Ah, but I guess that just makes me a filthy thief defender. 🤷‍♂️

I stopped taking "nerf teef" threads seriously a long time ago, bud. Ya'll want nerfs to thief, but when anyone dares ask for compensation, even something as meager as a rework to 300s cd traits, you fly off the hinges. There have been plenty of reasonable suggestions made by Thieves, in the Thief forum for years, but you don't want to hear about buffs or compnesation. You all just want to delete everything you don't like.

For all newcomers, allow me to summarize this thread for ya'll. Ahem "Nerf/Delete everything I don't like. How dare you make me put in effort, or, god forbid use my brain! *gasps in l2p*" You're welcome.

Right, they don't care, because it's not what you wanted. We've already established that, mate.

Apparently, throwing a fit because "I didn't get what I wanted" is the adult thing to do these days.

If I had a dime for every "the end is nigh" post ever made on these forums, I could afford to buy a summer home in Hawaii. 🙄

I don't get his mentality at all. It's been 260 years since GW1 happened. You do know that things change, that technology advances, like, a lot in just a 100 years right? All you have to do is look at how much technology advanced in the last 100 years in real life. Edit: And I'd like to add, to be very clear, in the last 100 years, we went from launching washing machines into space, to preparing to colonize Mars. Just for perspective. "Anet didn't copy-paste Cantha from GW1, so it's bad."

All of which are locked inside that mysterious Wizard's Tower that was somehow moved to Garenhoff some time between GW1 and GW2

But this isn't about Necromancer, or Mesmer, or any other class. This thread is specifically about Thief. And I haven't called for buffing thief, but against arbitrarily Smiter's Booning the entire Shadow Arts traitline. Though Acrobatics could use a little love.

So to summarize; In a thread about thief, because I don't know as much about necromancer as I apparently should, I shouldn't have or voice an opinion about thief? 😕

And why does this question merit asking in a thread about Thief? I'd also like to know who gets to decide who is and isn't qualified to partake in balance discussions. Because if we arbitrarily start deciding who can or can't have opinions on balance, this entire board would be like, a single page long. Edit: I also "don't take pvp seriously" because I run my own builds and play for fun, rather than copy-paste meta builds from snowcrows or metabattle, just to win.

Hmm. I don't take PvP that seriously (or seriously at all really). Though I think I've heard a quite a bit about that. People have been debating Condi builds and class stacking for a long time. Though Necro stacking does seem to have become popular recently. I don't generally play condi builds though, so I can't speak to that.

Scourge could definitely use some nerfs, you won't hear me disagree on that. Idk about core Necro. If we're talking about Minionmancer, there's not a lot they can do w/ Minions outside of making them useless like turrets. Although maybe re-introducing the natural health degeneration minions had in GW1. Minions shouldn't be on the field permanently.

So broken in fact, that it's one of the least played classes in the game. People like you make the Thief class sound like some omnipotent invisible deity that can indiscriminately smite people from anywhere, at any moment. By the way, I don't think you understand how "balance" works. Shadow Arts is overperforming. Acrobatics is underperforming. You want to nerf Shadow Arts without any compensation. Stop pretending to care about balance. The only thing you're interested in, is yourself. Edit: Oh and btw, I don't main Thief in PvP. I mostly play either Mesmer or Necro. 🙂

But, but...it's so much easier to come cry on the forums, than to spend time in-game actually learning to play!!1!!one! 😲