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  • Re: Parasitic Contagion

    @ArmageddonAsh.6430 said:

    @Junkpile.7439 said:
    Haven't never played necro without parasitic. Heal like crazy after you drop condibomb and epidemic.

    Yeah thats my point, insane in groups and blobs but gets worse and worse and worse the lower the number of people you are fighting. In a 1 Vs 1 situation. It is not viable sustain at all.

    Thats pretty much all of necro, which is why you don't take it in a 1v1. Thats the point. Parasitic is fine.

  • Re: Kittymarks - The derpy girl's comprehensive benchmark

    @Myhr.9108 said:
    There are two main types of criticism thrown at Kitty, and people love to mix them.

    First, there is the good old shaming. Kitty is lying, pretentious, bad and self-centered (she even talks of herself at the third person, what a wierdo!). Even though she has never ever said "take me as an example!", has admitted numerous times not being good (yet still good enough to down Bosses with her groups) but she's still pretentious. Guess people don't know the difference with "here what is possible with xyz build under xyz conditions". Which, you know is the very definition of a benchmark. It's a mark. Not a goal. Benchmarks can be used as goals, but they also can just be used as point of comparison or as a general idea.

    Secondly, there are the discussions about the relevancy of said benchmarks, as in "cool cool, but those videos are useless for me." This is probably the most valid form of criticism, because it gives us a view of the potential public for these videos. And, as some people said, they're perfectly entitled to give their opinion, to criticize the conditions under which the benchmarks are made, and so on. Still doesn't really explain why Kitty should stop making these since at worse, it'll be useless, and then it won't impact anybody.

    Except ive known her for years and everything in the first paragraph is pretty much true, because she does this all the time. I could even link you the excuse she gave me for why she talks in the 3rd person around 4 years ago. She used to dump on the people that played my particular class, then would come to our forums, trying to 'teach' us something, and you basically get a repeat of this thread. Literally everytime she post something, because of her attitude and how she does things. And almost none of it has to do with the fact she refers to herself in the 3rd person.

    If you are saying comments about her attitude and intentions are just simply 'shaming' then you haven't been playing close enough attention. You don't know her, and the fact you don't proves you are just white knighting for no good reason other than "you shouldn't criticize this person".

    BTW a mark IS a goal is the intention of said mark is a goal, which is what benchmarks for dps are. You don't get to redefine how people in this community use the word, just to justify your self righteousness.

  • Re: Kittymarks - The derpy girl's comprehensive benchmark

    @Myhr.9108 said:
    Yes they are benchmarks, benchmarks relative to the real difficulty level of raids, which is quite lower than what some people profess, and the proof is that you can get carried.

    Wrong. Benchmarks in this context are what a class can do performance wise under optimal realistic circumstances. If you call poorly done rotations in the literal same exact setting as qT benchmarks "relative to the real difficulty of raids" then you are a blatant liar. They are done in the same environment, that has literally no pressure. There is nothing stopping them from being optimal, because there is nothing hindering her performance, except her performance itself.

    @Myhr.9108 said:
    What I find really interesting is all the "carry-shaming", as if getting carried was the worse mark of disrespect ever. I mean, in your raid group, you're free to select whoever you want, and kick the under-performing members. But saying no-one wants to carry is just being close-minded. You don't want to carry, good for you. But if I'm ready to carry, you bet I would be happy that people that I carry have some realistic Kitten goal to aim to instead of being utterly demoralized by their mediocrity compared to qT's benchmarks and performing even worse.

    Being demoralized sounds like a personal issue. You haven't given anyone here a reason to care. Are you saying we should also gut all the raid bosses because people feel demoralized about taking damage or performing mechanics? Getting carried is bad, for any player that cares about their own personal skill level. if you are fine getting carried, you are saying you do not care.

    And if you do not care, your words about the meta, or 'elitism' are worthless. And it completely invalidates all your statements about 'demoralization' earlier.

    The way things should be done should not be predicated on the lowest common denominator. You are literally setting everyone up for failure, including the people you want to help. Why set a goal if that goal isn't gonna take any work to reach? You are literally telling people to aim low. It's downright disgusting, especially from someone who teaches others, and is constantly learning themselves.

    I know this because it's hardly something specific to GW2, it happened in a lot of MMORPGs I've played. But I must admit, the amount of elitism relative to the real difficulty of raids is incredibly off in GW2, I think it's the first time I've seen one of the speedrunning guild as the main reference, dps-wise.

    Maybe you don't play enough MMO's bruh. Come back when you have 200+ MMO's under your belt. Very few MMO's have actual rotations a person needs to learn because the content is designed for clicking skills, not real time. And even then, I have the same issue i have now. People are bad, and refuse to acknowledge it.

    Not a single one of these post you have made, have made me think you ever bothered to question if the statements you are talking about are actually elitism. They could simply be people who know better, voicing their opinions and observations. But that's impossible right?

    Stop white knighting and actually make a coherent argument for once please.

  • Re: Kittymarks - The derpy girl's comprehensive benchmark

    @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    @FrostDraco.8306 said:

    @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    However if you are gonna promote your way of playing as the only acceptable way to have fun

    That's what qt fans do every day in every squad in every corner of instanced content. This thread is neither for them, nor for you. Kitty doesn't care about how you play. She makes it for herself and people who like to play less stresfull environments than current toxic pve endgame community that is being promoted in this game.

    QT fans? I never claimed to be a qT fan, nor has anyone else, you liar.

    And qT has never claimed they are out to 'have fun', nor has anyone else advocating for the meta, and rigorous benchmarks. We advocate efficient, optimized play, not having 'fun'.

    Maybe you should understand the argument before you cry about how toxic it is. It makes you look like a bafoon.

    This thread is not about optimized, efficient gameplay. Kitty progresses through raid with her stuff so it's a proof that you don't need to be fixated on numbers and rotations to kill raid bosses. As long she completes instances it is enough to show her way. It's not optimized? Of course it's not. But people in this game forgot that optimized gameplay is fake requirement created by people and forced by people.

    And again, you are not the target for Kitty's work. Any talk about optimized, efficient gameplay is irrelevant here.

    Then so are kitty's benchmark and we are back to square one. Your words, not mine. Because if its not optimized and effective, its not actually a benchmark. It's a cobbled mess.

    Laws are created by people and forced by people as well. Should we throw those out?

  • Re: Kittymarks - The derpy girl's comprehensive benchmark

    @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    However if you are gonna promote your way of playing as the only acceptable way to have fun

    That's what qt fans do every day in every squad in every corner of instanced content. This thread is neither for them, nor for you. Kitty doesn't care about how you play. She makes it for herself and people who like to play less stresfull environments than current toxic pve endgame community that is being promoted in this game.

    QT fans? I never claimed to be a qT fan, nor has anyone else, you liar.

    And qT has never claimed they are out to 'have fun', nor has anyone else advocating for the meta, and rigorous benchmarks. We advocate efficient, optimized play, not having 'fun'.

    Maybe you should understand the argument before you cry about how toxic it is. It makes you look like a bafoon.
    If playing meta builds stresses you out then don't. However she chose to stress herself out by spending time, posting all of these poor examples. And arguing with more knowledgeable people.

    If you don't care, act like you don't care. If you don't want to prove your self, dont post something half baked claiming you already have.

    Everything about this thread contradicts the persons claims made in it. This IS the stressful toxic environment you claimed she was trying to avoid. Why are either of you here?

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