Theory: is End of Dragons the "Teef OP" expansion?

[itspomf.9523]

Real shower-thought hours, here, but hear me out:  Cantha is ANet's opportunity to finally prove once and for all that thief is (or isn't) completely OP by giving every single other profession an (underwhelming) Thief-oriented elite specialization that:

 

• Takes away or severely curtails core mechanics you know and love.
• Dramatically reduces survivability, but that's okay, you're mobile now.
• Just plain relies on being raw DPS to do anything, so rev up those Quickness boons or die trying.
• Everything's a leap or shadowstep, now.  Everything.

 

Finally we can lay the argument to rest (albeit around November 30th.  Soon™).

[MrForz.1953]

Yes of course it was the plan all along. 🙃

 

[AikijinX.6258]

Someone make an "Invincible" anime meme, where it says "look what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power"

 

Literally throughout HoT, PoF, and now EoD they've given other classes access to stealth, shadowsteps, and various skills that Thief have or originally had, it's funny how we are the benchmark for other classes.

[Grand Marshal.4098]

26 minutes ago, AikijinX.6258 said:

Someone make an "Invincible" anime meme, where it says "look what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power"

 

Literally throughout HoT, PoF, and now EoD they've given other classes access to stealth, shadowsteps, and various skills that Thief have or originally had, it's funny how we are the benchmark for other classes.

COUGH COUGH COUGH warrior COUGH COUGH COUGH

 

It sure must have been the wind with stances, physicals, adrenaline-like modes (Heat Forge) and other warrior flavored elements on professions (aka Reaper, Soulbeast) that said that!

 

Nah fr tho, it was expected for them to start borrowing a lot of the easier to implement concepts, and put them to other classes. Like physicals and deceptions would be far easier to apply than say spirit weapons or glamours

[SoftFootpaws.9134]

35 minutes ago, AikijinX.6258 said:

Someone make an "Invincible" anime meme, where it says "look what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power"

 

Literally throughout HoT, PoF, and now EoD they've given other classes access to stealth, shadowsteps, and various skills that Thief have or originally had, it's funny how we are the benchmark for other classes.

What are you talking about, Guardian and Necro have always been able to shadowstep. And no stealth was really given to any class that didn't already have it? For example, sure Scrapper got the Gyro, but Engis were area stealth-bombing for many years in WvW before that, its one of the main things they were known for.

 

If anything the devs haven't broken out of the Core mechanics of these classes enough, Its boring copy-paste.

Edited August 25, 2021 by Hannelore.8153

[AikijinX.6258]

2 hours ago, Hannelore.8153 said:

What are you talking about, Guardian and Necro have always been able to shadowstep. And no stealth was really given to any class that didn't already have it? For example, sure Scrapper got the Gyro, but Engis were area stealth-bombing for many years in WvW before that, its one of the main things they were known for.

 

If anything the devs haven't broken out of the Core mechanics of these classes enough, Its boring copy-paste.

Necro’s were able to sacrifice their flesh worm and “Teleport” not “shadowstep” Guardians are able to “teleport” not “shadowstep” well.. until EOD. But honestly the teleports/shadowsteps… Tomato/Tomado… semantics really. However the one distinct difference between teleport and shadowsteps are shadowsteps require valid pathing, where as teleports do not.

 

and stealth has been handed out to multiple classes over the years. Stealth is a Thief’s identity, like clone is to Mesmer. So I could argue that even back in core days that other classes back then during launch stole a piece of thief’s core identity. Stealth isn’t apart of a mesmer’s core and true identity nor is it for engineer, although they’re capable of doing so, that’s not their identity. 

Edited August 25, 2021 by AikijinX.6258

[Doggie.3184]

They said they wanted to really mix things up apparently with this expansion so what if they actually pulled the ultimate mixup and by some miracle intentionally fixed everything wrong with thief, something never attepted by anyone before: Then applied the Teef "OPness" to everyone so Thief doesn't soak up all the blame anymore. So if anyone made a nerf thief post it'd threaten every class including their own, causing them to be unable to thanks to their survival instincts not wanting to seppuku. Everyone will try to get good instead and there'd be world peace.

1 hour ago, AikijinX.6258 said:

and stealth has been handed out to multiple classes over the years. Stealth is a Thief’s identity, like clone is to Mesmer. 

It's a thief, it's identity is Stealing, by any method that lets it steal. Which happens to be a lot of things. 

[AikijinX.6258]

7 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said:

They said they wanted to really mix things up apparently with this expansion so what if they actually pulled the ultimate mixup and by some miracle intentionally fixed everything wrong with thief, something never attepted by anyone before: Then applied the Teef "OPness" to everyone so Thief doesn't soak up all the blame anymore. So if anyone made a nerf thief post it'd threaten every class including their own, causing them to be unable to thanks to their survival instincts not wanting to seppuku. Everyone will try to get good instead and there'd be world peace.

It's a thief, it's identity is Stealing, by any method that lets it steal. Which happens to be a lot of things. 

Just ironic how every other class is stealing from us lately😂

[MrForz.1953]

9 hours ago, AikijinX.6258 said:

and stealth has been handed out to multiple classes over the years. Stealth is a Thief’s identity, like clone is to Mesmer. identity. 

Nope. It could be Deadeye's identity given how its main weapon forces it; but Thief's identity is Steal. Stealth is a side aspect, like evades and venoms, we may have more of it but we can build without this aspect. I know it's hard to step out of Shadow Arts but it's certainly doable.

Also, it's funny how it's fine by concept that thieves step out of thief things to become warriors and so on but completely abhorrent that other classes to reach out to acquire some thief aspects.

[AikijinX.6258]

10 minutes ago, MrForz.1953 said:

Nope. It could be Deadeye's identity given how its main weapon forces it; but Thief's identity is Steal. Stealth is a side aspect, like evades and venoms, we may have more of it but we can build without this aspect. I know it's hard to step out of Shadow Arts but it's certainly doable.

Also, it's funny how it's fine by concept that thieves step out of thief things to become warriors and so on but completely abhorrent that other classes to reach out to acquire some thief aspects.

Thief as a whole umbrella’s (daredevil and deadeye). And I’ll just point out, while I’m not disagreeing that steal is apart of our identity. It’s a profession mechanic that we utilize, however we are masters of the shadows and agile beasts.

 

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/professions/thief/

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Thief