Saiyan.1704 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I see more posts about "nerf DH trahps!" than FB posts so.... yeah, lets bring back Firebrand in sPvP. Revert the nerf on the heal Mantra of Solice - currently the worse single heal in the game at the moment. Revert the nerf to Tombs and bring back FB quickness nerfs from prev patches for sPvP only. For the love of all that holy, please don't do the same to Willbender..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJake.6529 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Let's not bring back firebrand 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, KingJake.6529 said: Let's not bring back firebrand But whyyyyyy! FB was only toxic during the bunker meta but they removed those amulets... FB itself is just trash and I don't want it to be trash. FB actually had a higher skillfloor than DH did when it first came out :(... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Saiyan.1704 said: But whyyyyyy! FB was only toxic during the bunker meta but they removed those amulets... FB itself is just trash and I don't want it to be trash. FB actually had a higher skillfloor than DH did when it first came out :(... while personally I wouldn't mind buffing FB to viable levels " not meta levels " I dont trust anyone on the dev team to not kitten it up and return us to pre-feb FB meta. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) Bring back firebrand make the guardian class inaccessible to scrubs again, all these DH's sadden me. Ngl, its like every build thats not user friendly thats good gets nerfed into oblivion and its happened to many times now its by design. 5 hours ago, Saiyan.1704 said: But whyyyyyy! FB was only toxic during the bunker meta but they removed those amulets... FB itself is just trash and I don't want it to be trash. FB actually had a higher skillfloor than DH did when it first came out :(... FB has always been and will always be harder then DH, DH is so easy alot of DH's dont even bother to swap weapons, your utility skills aren't targeted u just put them on the ground so all you really need to focus on is attacking, got 2 built in long blocks and constant heals the build plays it self. All your damage is frontloaded on 2 skills basically and the other 2 are aoe skills. Really you can't really mess up on the class but people can beat you pretty easily because it's so kitten predictable. Edited September 6, 2021 by Genesis.5169 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guirssane.7082 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Symbolbrand was fun but too strong... Been replaced by core guardian and it's more fair imo. Actually didn't try it after heal mantra was nerfed but it seems so kitten right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Saiyan.1704 said: I see more posts about "nerf DH trahps!" than FB posts so.... yeah, lets bring back Firebrand in sPvP. Revert the nerf on the heal Mantra of Solice - currently the worse single heal in the game at the moment. Revert the nerf to Tombs and bring back FB quickness nerfs from prev patches for sPvP only. For the love of all that holy, please don't do the same to Willbender..... To bring back the healing for mantra of solace, they have to give it a cast time first again. It is currently a healing skill with no cast time, meaning that you can use it while being cced and is also immune to interrupt. This is quite powerful for healing skills. As long as it has no cast time, they should not increase it's healing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 hours ago, KingJake.6529 said: Let's not bring back firebrand 2 hours ago, Kodama.6453 said: To bring back the healing for mantra of solace, they have to give it a cast time first again. It is currently a healing skill with no cast time, meaning that you can use it while being cced and is also immune to interrupt. This is quite powerful for healing skills. As long as it has no cast time, they should not increase it's healing. Pretty sure you have no idea how trash it heals for. You can buff the heal for 2x the current amount and STILL be the lowest heal skill in the game lol. Anet pigeon-holed the skill to be used with Honor and that is just lazy design with flaws... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Saiyan.1704 said: Pretty sure you have no idea how trash it heals for. You can buff the heal for 2x the current amount and STILL be the lowest heal skill in the game lol. Anet pigeon-holed the skill to be used with Honor and that is just lazy design with flaws... I know that it is trashy low. I am just saying that they should give it a cast time to increase it's healing. I abused medic gyro hard when it used to be an instant cast heal for 4k, I know that instant healing skills can be extreme kitten. I am all for buffing it's healing, but give it a cast time alongside it so it can be interrupted/prevented by stunlocking like the other healing skills. On top, this is an instant healing skill with ammunition system and aegis. Which would make it extra kitten. Edited September 6, 2021 by Kodama.6453 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Saiyan.1704 said: But whyyyyyy! FB was only toxic during the bunker meta but they removed those amulets... FB itself is just trash and I don't want it to be trash. FB actually had a higher skillfloor than DH did when it first came out :(... They can bring Firebrand after they fully rework the e-speces fiasco, otherwise Firebrand will instantly become OP broken the moment they buff it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Personally i thought they would after writ of persistance nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) I don't remember who said it but i agree with the point that with FB, when you get burn ticks you often didn't know whether you needed to cleanse them or not. By the time you knew it those burns ticks ate half of your HP if not more. It may be not so much an issue in 1v1 situation (only source of burns and less animations, duhh) but in team fights it was. Add rather not so great animations, imo, you get even worse readability of the whole situation. Just like with many other things i think FB needs some kind of rework. It is in a place where it is either too rewarding to play or not viable. Generally i think we all suffer in the end because of devs design decisions. With xpacs they went with "MOAR AOE, MOAR INSTANT CRAP, MOAR PASSIVES, MOAR MOBILITY" which leads to 1. bad readability 2. frustrating gameplay -> nerfs, whole especs becoming unviable. I really wish they didn't throw "risk vs reward concept" out of the window but it is too late now 😕 Edited September 6, 2021 by Cynz.9437 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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