Wonder if they add pips in EotM after alliances

[Junkpile.7439]

This alliance system sounds complicated. They should add pips in EotM so casuals could play there. 🙄

Edited September 15, 2021 by Junkpile.7439

[gebrechen.5643]

No, they shouldn't. EotM always was a karmatrain map where people traded Kills and Ranks 24/7. Don't bring that back.

[yourothermom.3479]

EotM?

 

[misterman.1530]

15 hours ago, yourothermom.3479 said:

EotM?

 

Edge of the Mists. 

[Infusion.7149]

They should revamp EoTM pips for the arena area specifically. There are the makings of a proper GvG area there such as a ladder or some sort of reward system. Unfortunately currently most of the onus is on the community to arrange and reward such things.

See https://gw2mists.com/gvg-radar
https://www.battlefficiency.eu/en/battle-of-the-mists-en/

[LetoII.3782]

If they try to change 2 things at the same time the universe might implode

[Xenesis.6389]

3 hours ago, Infusion.7149 said:

They should revamp EoTM pips for the arena area specifically. There are the makings of a proper GvG area there such as a ladder or some sort of reward system. Unfortunately currently most of the onus is on the community to arrange and reward such things.

See https://gw2mists.com/gvg-radar
https://www.battlefficiency.eu/en/battle-of-the-mists-en/

 

Sure and maybe they can let me earn wvw pips while in spvp or doing a pve map meta too, seems fair.

[Infusion.7149]

48 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

 

Sure and maybe they can let me earn wvw pips while in spvp or doing a pve map meta too, seems fair.

There's already WVW reward tracks from EoTM. I don't understand your point, do you think that having people GvG in a corner of the map if they didn't finish skirmish track for the week is a better solution?

[Xenesis.6389]

9 minutes ago, Infusion.7149 said:

There's already WVW reward tracks from EoTM. I don't understand your point, do you think that having people GvG in a corner of the map if they didn't finish skirmish track for the week is a better solution?

 

Here's the difference, rewards track only requires you to kill or cap stuff for participation, skirmish also involves earning pips from scoring as well. Eotm has nothing to do with wvw matches, other than a four hour supply drop which is next to useless/pointless, hence my statement on earning it in completely different areas.

 

Skirmish track is a wvw reward, it should be earned playing in wvw, I don't care if people want to stay on a treb at smc afk participation farming it because at least it's taking down a wall or two, wall repair farm, kill a dolyak and then afk at spawn, or if they're gvging on the south part of the map while they're keeping the enemy busy there, at least they're doing something to contribute to the warscore and server earned pips.

 

But I don't think they should make it any easier and made more private to eotm, I can even imagine people going to the arena to kill trade and then afk 10 mins to get their pips, at least in wvw there's still a chance that something could go wrong for them, they still have to go onto maps with potentially 100 enemies to get it.

 

If they want, they can give eotm their own light version of the skirmish track and system, but keep the main wvw rewards to wvw, get the people who don't want to play wvw out of wvw, but not by still handing them wvw earned rewards.

[ASP.8093]

They should add warclaw to EotM instead.

[Infusion.7149]

15 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

 

Here's the difference, rewards track only requires you to kill or cap stuff for participation, skirmish also involves earning pips from scoring as well. Eotm has nothing to do with wvw matches, other than a four hour supply drop which is next to useless/pointless, hence my statement on earning it in completely different areas.

 

Skirmish track is a wvw reward, it should be earned playing in wvw, I don't care if people want to stay on a treb at smc afk participation farming it because at least it's taking down a wall or two, wall repair farm, kill a dolyak and then afk at spawn, or if they're gvging on the south part of the map while they're keeping the enemy busy there, at least they're doing something to contribute to the warscore and server earned pips.

 

But I don't think they should make it any easier and made more private to eotm, I can even imagine people going to the arena to kill trade and then afk 10 mins to get their pips, at least in wvw there's still a chance that something could go wrong for them, they still have to go onto maps with potentially 100 enemies to get it.

 

If they want, they can give eotm their own light version of the skirmish track and system, but keep the main wvw rewards to wvw, get the people who don't want to play wvw out of wvw, but not by still handing them wvw earned rewards.

It's actually the opposite. Skirmish tracks require killing/capping stuff for participation.

Killing/cap/defense/etc reward WXP not reward track progress which is gained from ticking.

Right now skirmish tracks aren't affected by EotM although reward tracks are. It doesn't matter to me if that stays the same, I'm just stating that having people with zero interest in the matchup GvGing in the corner taking up queue space is not useful for the rest of the players. EotM arena was a good step toward addressing that. If they supported the GVG community with pip rewards for GvG (as opposed to your example of kill trading) for player led tournaments then it would help out the mode overall as you would get those people out of normal WvW more or less.

EotM arena ought to be the WvW equivalent to Automated Tournaments in PVP. There is no actual PVP ranked pip reward there but they do give you potions for reward track progress and mystic coins for top placements for the daily AT. Of course the existing systems in place don't support anything that complicated right now. The only infrastructure in place right now as far as GvG is community titles (Community Conquerer as far as 5v5 and Community Hero for PVE tournaments).

[TheGrimm.5624]

On 9/12/2021 at 6:26 PM, ASP.8093 said:

They should add warclaw to EotM instead.

 

Not trolling mind you, they should add Warclaw, gliding, WxP and bring the map over as another WvW map so its part of weekly scoring. The original intent for EoTM was to be an overflow while people couldn't get into the maps. With Alliances we shouldn't have queues if everything works out since we should have enough shards to cover everyone getting reasonable map loads. Note a lot of 'ifs' there but go big or go home. We have needed new maps and we have a map people would play but won't since it's not really part of the game mode due to its original intent. Now granted I think there were a lot of people that did not like the map since it was not like ABL, but there were also people that liked it because it was not like ABL. I am hoping that if we do get a new WvW map(s) with EoD they are not like ABL personally.  But each to their own. 

[Jaruselka.5943]

On 9/11/2021 at 7:45 PM, yourothermom.3479 said:

EotM?

 

Possible sarcasm detected..

[yourothermom.3479]

19 hours ago, Jaruselka.5943 said:

Possible sarcasm detected..

no sarcasm.... truly didn't know