Justine.6351 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Ether FeastHeal yourself. Emit a field in front of you that consumes enemy magical wards, healing you.Glamour1 second cast25second rechargeHeal: 4000 (.2)Heal on field removal: 750(.1)Radius: 600 forward coneField duration: 3 secondsChaos fieldBlast finisherRemoves enemy combo fieldsFirst it does it's basic heal. Then it creates a glamour field in a cone in front of you and travels and aims with you for 600 range. Any combo fields it comes into contact with on pulse, are removed and you are further healed. On the last pulse it does a blast finisher to grant aoe chaos armor.Idk just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esplen.3940 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 So changing one of our strongest healing skills into doing what Null Field is supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Ether Feast doesn't need a rework. And did they really thumbs up their own post? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart.3687 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 As much as I would like to see glamour healing skill, I do not want Ether Feast to be reworked. It's fine the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulter.2315 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Feast is a solid throughput heal, simple to understand and measure against. Doesn't need changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroatheist.9031 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Feast is fine and this idea would either be utterly garbage (most 1v1, PvP, or PvE situations) or utterly broken (use in WvW, scrape up 15 fields, get a full heal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I like the idea of removing enemy combo fields. However ether feast is already a strong heal, and I think that utility should be tied up in, well, a utility skill. But I'm not against adding something similar in a new heal we get that will be classified as a glamour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaylin.1860 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 @Esplen.3940 said:So changing one of our strongest healing skills into doing what Null Field is supposed to.Stares at Winds of Disenchantments and grunts.Regarding Eather Feast... Justines suggestions rarely fail to entertain from a balance perspective, sorry... :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Sorry didn't know it was a popular heal. Do kind of want a glamour heal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I kinda what it to be a clone skill.Add new function:create a clone on your target if you have no illusions active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneQR.7412 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Just heal arround you and arround each illusion. Generate a lightfield that is bigger depending on the number if illusions active.Thats the approach i would choose if i wanted to shoehorn it into a glamour skill.Its good atm as it is even if it has no specific skill class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flog.3485 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No need to "fix" what isn't broken.I wouldn't mind a modification of mirage healing skill however :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 @Justine.6351 said:Sorry didn't know it was a popular heal. Do kind of want a glamour heal though.o.0 how did you not know that? It shares the shortest cast time among base mesmer heals, has the highest base heal along with the highest HP contribution to it, along with a very low CD compared to SoE. It also grants even more health if we have illusions out. In fact, only traited mirror is better than ether feast as a core mesmer heal (4,299 every 12 seconds on traited mirror, with 4sec mirror, compared to 5,560-7,780 every 20 seconds with ether feast depending on your illusions. Over the course of a minute, traited mirror heals for only 1k less health than casting a 3 illusion ether feast off CD). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 @OriOri.8724 said:@Justine.6351 said:Sorry didn't know it was a popular heal. Do kind of want a glamour heal though.o.0 how did you not know that? It shares the shortest cast time among base mesmer heals, has the highest base heal along with the highest HP contribution to it, along with a very low CD compared to SoE. It also grants even more health if we have illusions out. In fact, only traited mirror is better than ether feast as a core mesmer heal (4,299 every 12 seconds on traited mirror, with 4sec mirror, compared to 5,560-7,780 every 20 seconds with ether feast depending on your illusions. Over the course of a minute, traited mirror heals for only 1k less health than casting a 3 illusion ether feast off CD). I just assumed people used one of the other 3 traited or well of eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @phokus.8934 said:Ether Feast doesn't need a rework. And did they really thumbs up their own post? ...u cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 That could make it really strong in some wvw blob vs blob scenarios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allarius.5670 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Oooohhh, create a skill discussion ... Glamour heal ... Hmm ... Certainly a light or ethereal field and some kind of mesmery support mechanic.Twist of Fate - 1 sec cast, 20 sec cd. Heal yourself and create a field of energy that confuses foes whenever they activate a skill and grants regeneration to allies whenever they take damage.Heal: 5560 (1.0)Confusion (1x): 3 secRegeneration: 3 secDuration: 5 secNumber of Targets: 5Radius: 240Combo field: EtherealRange: 1200Unblockable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 While the idea of a glamour heal is nice, I don't think Ether Feast needs to be reworked. Would rather have an entirely new glamour heal.Ether Feast could be made into an Illusion heal (synergy with Illusionist's Celerity for cooldown) spawning a clone if less than 3 illusions are active, although it could be too strong with 20% cooldown reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messiah.1908 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 ether feast from gw1 is tide to nrg loss and not illusion. i agree this heal skill should be tide to illusion skill . so you can get the cd depands on illusion trait choice. even if it be 16 sec cd.the rework can be:each illusion heal 640 around it - more aoe supportorfor each illusion out you gain a boon (aegis, vigor, protection)orfor each illusion out your dmg is increase by 7% for 5 sec.orfor each illusion out you cleanse 1 condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Even when traited, only mirror outperforms ether feast. The mantra is too clunky (arguably better now, but they also nerfed the healing when you are above 50% health, despite it literally being designed as a weak heal we are supposed to spam......), SoE has a huge CD for a worse heal. Its notably used for its ability to reset phantasm skill CDs > @Curunen.8729 said:While the idea of a glamour heal is nice, I don't think Ether Feast needs to be reworked. Would rather have an entirely new glamour heal.Ether Feast could be made into an Illusion heal (synergy with Illusionist's Celerity for cooldown) spawning a clone if less than 3 illusions are active, although it could be too strong with 20% cooldown reduction.20% CD reduction on ether feast would be way too good, especially on a minor trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaylin.1860 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Still, not making it an Illusion skill is kinda inconsequential - just like Shelter. There are ways to balance it. ANet just doesn't want to spend time on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R E F L H E X.8413 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 ether feast is one of the only skills in both games that doesnt require editingPersonally when I first looked at them I thought wells should be glamour then they already tie into past traits and that new heal woulda been glamour. Idk why they did the new specs like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durzlla.6295 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I personally would like to see ether feast just be labeled as an illusion skill and maybe summon a clone of you have none active or something rather than rework it into a glamour.Regardless though it'd be cool to get this sorta skill just added on, cause we do need a glamour heal still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MailMail.6534 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Thematically speaking, I've always thought that Ether Feast should be similar to a shatter, since you're literally consuming the energy of your clones. It would be similar to Distortion where they just shattered in place. They would need to buff the healing per clone if implemented like this however. However, that would give us access to another shatter which would be effected by traits. Yeah, idk it's already getting a bit too complicated now that I consider what I've just written. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 @MailMail.6534 While I can't agree with making ether feast a shatter, I think that the idea of a shatter that heals us and cures conditions is a really good one. This would lessen our dependence on Inspirations for sustained healing and condi cleanse. Though I don't know where I would put it, maybe roll CoF into MW and then place this new one as F2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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