Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I find it completely ridiculous that blocked attacks don't reveal the attacker. You can just spam into a blocking ability and have no penalty. I think if a player is block they should still be reveled. 6 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorsquad.2349 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) I find it completely ridiculous that a player can block attacks from something he can't see. I think if a player is in stealth, he can attack through blocks. Edited September 19, 2021 by Terrorsquad.2349 Sarcasm 4 7 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: I find it completely ridiculous that a player can block attacks from something he can't see. I think if a player is in stealth, he can attack through blocks. Wonderful rebuttal. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Isn't the penalty not being able to damage? So the block works as intended? And thief stealth attacks go on a cooldown as well so really anything into block gets a cooldown and does no damage. And of course the cooldowns to be in stealth are wasted at that point for zero damage. But sure...people just spam into blocks from stealth with no disadvantage. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewthief.8649 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Valik Shin.9027 said: I find it completely ridiculous that blocked attacks don't reveal the attacker. You can just spam into a blocking ability and have no penalty. I think if a player is block they should still be reveled. A blocked backstab goes on cooldown. And to be honest, by the time it comes off cooldown stealth is usually gone shortly thereafter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 I should have known the thief player base wouldn't be happy with this. Can't be to surprised considering it takes a special type to enjoy that play style 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, crewthief.8649 said: A blocked backstab goes on cooldown. And to be honest, by the time it comes off cooldown stealth is usually gone shortly thereafter. I have literally been hit 10 times on 1 Shield stance by 1 thief and then hits me for 6k the second the stance drops. I would say they didn't waste too much 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: I find it completely ridiculous that a player can block attacks from something he can't see. I think if a player is in stealth, he can attack through blocks. You can literally run through an enemy and not get revealed. I think your logic is a bit out the window with that 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewthief.8649 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Valik Shin.9027 said: I have literally been hit 10 times on 1 Shield stance by 1 thief and then hits me for 6k the second the stance drops. I would say they didn't waste too much Not from stealth you haven’t. You’re straight up exaggerating (a lot). No need to lie, because you’re communicating to people who know better. By the way, I’m a Warrior main, so you’re wrong that I am biased. I’m just giving you 100% facts. You post a whine thread, and then get incensed when people present you with facts within the thread.. *EDIT* The more I think about this, the more irritated I get. Shield Stance last 3 seconds, you assert that you have been hit 11 times (with the last one connecting) during its duration. Why would you lie this blatantly? What you claim is literally impossible. Seriously, dude… Besides, any Thief at gold or above is going to Steal the second they see that shield go up (provided it isn’t on cooldown). Edited September 20, 2021 by crewthief.8649 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Exactly this topic has been discussed to extend (with the same quality of evidence, like getting hit 10 times on 1 shield stance kek) on profession forums and was closed by mod. Idk why you revive it here again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip.7463 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: I find it completely ridiculous that a player can block attacks from something he can't see. I think if a player is in stealth, he can attack through blocks. But players dont randomly block attacks… when someone blocks means he saw u coming and putted his shield up… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorsquad.2349 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: But players dont randomly block attacks… when someone blocks means he saw u coming and putted his shield up… Aegis and boons from teamfights disagrees. Edited September 20, 2021 by Terrorsquad.2349 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukasu.3097 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: I find it completely ridiculous that a player can block attacks from something he can't see. I think if a player is in stealth, he can attack through blocks. Ehh those teef mains lmao 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip.7463 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 53 minutes ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: Aegis and boons from teamfights disagrees. Its ur fault u attacked at time he had aegis. Anyways, thats boon not actual block. U are in RPG not FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorsquad.2349 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: Its ur fault u attacked at time he had aegis. Anyways, thats boon not actual block. U are in RPG not FPS. Aegis is an instant cast without animation. Has nothing to do with skill when hitting it. 2 hours ago, Filip.7463 said: But players dont randomly block attacks… when someone blocks means he saw u coming and putted his shield up… Over half of the players randomly block, be real. Most people go panic mode and press block whenever it is available and when they used their CD. Only small part of the PvP community is actually blocking/dodging the skills he intend to block or dodge because of knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip.7463 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: Aegis is an instant cast without animation. Has nothing to do with skill when hitting it. Over half of the players randomly block, be real. Most people go panic mode and press block whenever it is available and when they used their CD. Only small part of the PvP community is actually blocking/dodging the skills he intend to block or dodge because of knowledge. All boons have animation, aegis is the most visible one. If oppos are skill spamming, its ur fault that u cant outplay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 21 hours ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: I find it completely ridiculous that a player can block attacks from something he can't see. I think if a player is in stealth, he can attack through blocks. i think if someone is at stealth he shouldnt be able to shoot in the first place 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 easy fix... delete stealth 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorsquad.2349 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: All boons have animation, aegis is the most visible one. If oppos are skill spamming, its ur fault that u cant outplay them. You don't get it, do you? Or you're just being stubborn. Aegis is insta-cast. Meaning: if I start an attack (which has a castime and animation), the enemy can use Aegis 0.2s before I land my attack. There is no "its your fault"-logic here. Stop replying with simple nonsense. I came here with sarcasm and everyone so b*tth*rt over stealth still. It's not the stealth killing you. It's being outrotated, outskilled or outpeeled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip.7463 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Terrorsquad.2349 said: You don't get it, do you? Or you're just being stubborn. Aegis is insta-cast. Meaning: if I start an attack (which has a castime and animation), the enemy can use Aegis 0.2s before I land my attack. There is no "its your fault"-logic here. Stop replying with simple nonsense. I came here with sarcasm and everyone so b*tth*rt over stealth still. It's not the stealth killing you. It's being outrotated, outskilled or outpeeled. F3 guard aegis is insta, shield 4 isnt. If guard puts it up right before u backstab, he saw u and played well. Also imagine thief complaining about guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorsquad.2349 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Filip.7463 said: F3 guard aegis is insta, shield 4 isnt. If guard puts it up right before u backstab, he saw u and played well. Also imagine thief complaining about guard. No no, Im not the one complaining here. YOU started this by saying people don't randomly block. While in reality most people block when they shouldn't. I was the one pointing that out. You are the one finding one argument after another to keep this useless discussion and off topic going. Like: when did I complain about guards? Quote me on that one? Or did I actually saw you thinking guard is the only one with instant Aegis? Also be real: how does a guard see if a thief is going to backstab (stealthed) midst a teamfight? Also to perform a shield 4 with 0.5s cast time vs a 0.25s skill cast. Good luck saving your allie from a backstab with shield 4 midst AoE's going all around. In theory it's possible but reality is quite different and would call for perfect circumstances. If you're talking 1v1: why would a thief engage that anyway. Bottomline: no use arguing or bringing those points up. Let's stick to the topic and read my very first comment again. Read the edit line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, crewthief.8649 said: Not from stealth you haven’t. You’re straight up exaggerating (a lot). No need to lie, because you’re communicating to people who know better. By the way, I’m a Warrior main, so you’re wrong that I am biased. I’m just giving you 100% facts. You post a whine thread, and then get incensed when people present you with facts within the thread.. *EDIT* The more I think about this, the more irritated I get. Shield Stance last 3 seconds, you assert that you have been hit 11 times (with the last one connecting) during its duration. Why would you lie this blatantly? What you claim is literally impossible. Seriously, dude… Besides, any Thief at gold or above is going to Steal the second they see that shield go up (provided it isn’t on cooldown). Well ifk what to tell you cause it happens. Usually onlyb3 or 4 times into a block but I have counted 10. Unless there was a 2nd player that didn't come out of stealth in the area ifk what to tell you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valik Shin.9027 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 42 minutes ago, noiwk.2760 said: easy fix... delete stealth I would live that but that's not gonna happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cynz.9437 said: Exactly this topic has been discussed to extend (with the same quality of evidence, like getting hit 10 times on 1 shield stance kek) on profession forums and was closed by mod. Idk why you revive it here again. That was the pistol stealth attack that you blocked. Aegis will sometimes block entire skills even if its multiple hits. Or if you did a skill block. Edited September 20, 2021 by Genesis.5169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crewthief.8649 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Valik Shin.9027 said: Well ifk what to tell you cause it happens. Usually onlyb3 or 4 times into a block but I have counted 10. Unless there was a 2nd player that didn't come out of stealth in the area ifk what to tell you. So, now it’s two players in stealth? You sure it wasn’t three? I can promise you, one player did not spam 11 backstabs from stealth (or any attacks for that matter) in three seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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