Do ques only pop if both teams have two necros now?

[THF.9672]

how to make stop?

[Wild.1705]

You can't stop death!!!!!!

 

The que tries not to put mutiples of the same classes on a team if it can avoid it. But, there soooooo many necros that the mm can't help but put multiple on a team.

 

Also, sometimes when I solo que and I want to win, I que up as something other then necro then swap to necro after match pops in the hope that the mm put a necro on the team from the start. Others probs do the same.

 

[Marxx.5021]

It is not really about necros. It is about class stacking. As long as "Anet" thinks switching classes is good for match setups nothing will change.

[Filip.7463]

1 hour ago, Marxx.5021 said:

It is not really about necros. It is about class stacking. As long as "Anet" thinks switching classes is good for match setups nothing will change.

Why is class swapping bad?? If oppo has 2 core necs and 1 condi thief im prolly not gonna play rev.

 

Nec is the problem - easy to play, a lot of aoe condi, lots of aoe cc, all utilities are god tier, it has double health…

 

Tho why can nec swap weapons in combat, while ele, engi and new war cant?????

[Khalisto.5780]

I gave up playing any other class in this mode

 

The insta fear from shades is just too op

[Exile.8160]

3 hours ago, Marxx.5021 said:

It is not really about necros. It is about class stacking. As long as "Anet" thinks switching classes is good for match setups nothing will change.

Necro is overperforming lets blame switching classes at start..... this make no sense. They let you swap for those good old time you get 2 to 3 thieves in your party and they need to swap or is gg from the spwan.

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by Exile.8160

[Genesis.5169]

The game tries to equalize classes so if you saw 4 necros its probally because 5 were in queue and the algo need to put them in a game because they have been waiting too long.

 

Only way to solve this is to make other classes have higher pay off for difficulty like ELE or weakening necro to have the risk/reward/complexity in balance to necro just doesn't absorb all the players who want to be carried by one of those 3 things.

[Lighter.5631]

3 hours ago, Filip.7463 said:

Why is class swapping bad?? If oppo has 2 core necs and 1 condi thief im prolly not gonna play rev.

 

Nec is the problem - easy to play, a lot of aoe condi, lots of aoe cc, all utilities are god tier, it has double health…

 

Tho why can nec swap weapons in combat, while ele, engi and new war cant?????

class swapping is bad because it allows even more class stacking which enables even more 2 necro which is the main problem causig you to switch

 

OT:

a real pvp game needs to disable class stacking, with one class per team, like if necro is limited to 1 per team, it will never be a problem or as much as a problem.

 

and even better needs role lock, for fixed role comp, like one support spot, 2 side noder spot and 2 roamer spot, so no gimmick cheese comp and exploiting. and free comp can be made for unranked.

 

these two changes will make the game 20 times more fun and balanced.

but yea it will never ever happen, even less likely now with this population, everybody knows

Edited September 28, 2021 by Lighter.5631

[Filip.7463]

52 minutes ago, Lighter.5631 said:

class swapping is bad because it allows even more class stacking which enables even more 2 necro which is the main problem causig you to switch

 

OT:

a real pvp game needs to disable class stacking, with one class per team, like if necro is limited to 1 per team, it will never be a problem or as much as a problem.

 

and even better needs role lock, for fixed role comp, like one support spot, 2 side noder spot and 2 roamer spot, so no gimmick cheese comp and exploiting. and free comp can be made for unranked.

 

these two changes will make the game 20 times more fun and balanced.

but yea it will never ever happen, even less likely now with this population, everybody knows

Ok so i get ur point. Because 3 nec = insta win, means class swapping is bad. BUT U DONT SAY NECS ARE OP SINCE THEY MEAN INSTA WIN

[Marxx.5021]

7 hours ago, Filip.7463 said:

Why is class swapping bad?? If oppo has 2 core necs and 1 condi thief im prolly not gonna play rev.

 

 

Without class stacking there wouldn't be 2 necros in the opponent team.

And it is not only a necro problem because next time it is about engineer or whatever class has issues. Also having like 2 thiefs makes (more often) worse matchups as it is with every stacked class imho.

Another reason is match manipulation. To queue with an under powered class switching to an overpowered class shouldn't be allowed in case  that class is already present in team.

 

 

[Filip.7463]

3 hours ago, Marxx.5021 said:

 

Without class stacking there wouldn't be 2 necros in the opponent team.

And it is not only a necro problem because next time it is about engineer or whatever class has issues. Also having like 2 thiefs makes (more often) worse matchups as it is with every stacked class imho.

Another reason is match manipulation. To queue with an under powered class switching to an overpowered class shouldn't be allowed in case  that class is already present in team.

 

 

Why is class stacking problem, not necro? Whats wrong with 2 sidenoder weavers / rangers and 3 diff teamfighters? Or 2 holos, rev + rene, mirage + core (one sidenoder one roamer)?????

[Marxx.5021]

11 hours ago, Filip.7463 said:

Why is class stacking problem, not necro? Whats wrong with 2 sidenoder weavers / rangers and 3 diff teamfighters? Or 2 holos, rev + rene, mirage + core (one sidenoder one roamer)?????

 

All classes had issues that made them overpowered no matter what role they could take - turret engineer, mirage, reveneant - all had issues. The same will happen again when EoD gets released. I just say match quality would be better without class stacking.

Besides it is possible to stack more than 2 ...

[Pimsley.3681]

11 hours ago, Filip.7463 said:

Why is class stacking problem, not necro? Whats wrong with 2 sidenoder weavers / rangers and 3 diff teamfighters? Or 2 holos, rev + rene, mirage + core (one sidenoder one roamer)?????

Bruv you and I know it takes tremendous effort to play side node weaver and nades holo in conquest. I dont play in EU but am willing to start a F2P account

[Exile.8160]

7 hours ago, Marxx.5021 said:

 

All classes had issues that made them overpowered no matter what role they could take - turret engineer, mirage, reveneant - all had issues. The same will happen again when EoD gets released. I just say match quality would be better without class stacking.

Besides it is possible to stack more than 2 ...

Have you not seen the new especs? Highly doudt theyll be played much. Necro was the strongest ( shocker -_-) and it still wasnt good enough for the current meta.

[Leonidrex.5649]

4 hours ago, Exile.8160 said:

Have you not seen the new especs? Highly doudt theyll be played much. Necro was the strongest ( shocker -_-) and it still wasnt good enough for the current meta.

I thought it was perfect.
brainless bunker afk spec like all the others