EoD looks so bad it's not even funny

[Norbe.7630]

16 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

I think you should go check the beta event schedule.

Oh i just checked it. Sadge, no fishing tryout.
Just the sadge turtle on the last beta😩. No fun.

Edit: Its siege turtle not sadge

Edited December 1, 2021 by Norbe.7630

[Rotten Apple.9643]

I've played since 2013 but never been around for an xpac release or a beta. Are the new E Spec trait pictures placeholder? They look extremely elementary/lackluster compared to the rest of the profession traits. The Vindicator ones aren't even the same color scheme as the rest of revenants. It just looks very amateur and I'm hoping they are just placeholders? The bladesworn ones are especially lacking in just about everything

[Norbe.7630]

2 minutes ago, Rotten Apple.9643 said:

I've played since 2013 but never been around for an xpac release or a beta. Are the new E Spec trait pictures placeholder? They look extremely elementary/lackluster compared to the rest of the profession traits. The Vindicator ones aren't even the same color scheme as the rest of revenants. It just looks very amateur and I'm hoping they are just placeholders? The bladesworn ones are especially lacking in just about everything

Elite spec ranking: Creativity, Idea, Playability.
S tier: HoT
A tier: Core
B tier: PoF
Cash tier: EoD

[Andred.1087]

😂 wow.. y'all never cease to amaze me.

[WaveIn.4091]

I think the Turtle and the Jade construct look great. I love the look of the Catalyst effects. I remember enjoying the new upgrade to Warrior as well. The green looks high tech and I love the tech theme. To me it looks like modern rockets taking off and landing. I think it’s very cool. I hope we’ll see more interesting tech in Cantha 

[burnhouse.9201]

I love how I just saw OP go off about ded gaem in a thread about... the new sylvari hair. If the game is so offensive all you can do is rant on the forums at every turn, just... log out. This isn't a job, if you're so jaded that nothing looks fun uninstall it. I recently came back for the first time in 4 years and am having a blast. There's plenty more like me, if the game is no longer fun for you let us take the reins.

[Faridah.8431]

2 hours ago, Norbe.7630 said:

Elite spec ranking: Creativity, Idea, Playability.
S tier: HoT
A tier: Core
B tier: PoF
Cash tier: EoD

Core had elite specs? Ok...

But yeah, so far EoD seems to be lacking a lot with the new lineup whether simple things like the skill art, or animation, to just straight up bad concepts and names. I can't see any scenario where a Willbender will be worth taking over anything else for example.

[Norbe.7630]

1 hour ago, Faridah.8431 said:

Core had elite specs? Ok...

But yeah, so far EoD seems to be lacking a lot with the new lineup whether simple things like the skill art, or animation, to just straight up bad concepts and names. I can't see any scenario where a Willbender will be worth taking over anything else for example.

In my eyes they are all just specs/traits whereas the expansion traits are just locked trait, formally called as elites to make it more appealing, not in my eyes though, but for most maybe yes, people are easily fooled when you just change a name of a gimmick.
But I think  the art of Willbender is like the animation series "Avatar", you know the Air Bender bald monk. If you look at the profession skills its "fist" and "foot", totally in line with the "sword" off hand 😂, that was intricately thought of, even the utilities its fists and foot. Willbender is shaolin kung-fu that uses fist and foot and sword as decoration on its waist in movies. Thats that.

[babak.3654]

It does feel like the best ideas had already been used up in HoT and PoF, be that specialisations, mounts or features like fishing. The new map content and story could still be really great, but since so little has been shown it’s hard to know. 

[Alin.2468]

1 hour ago, babak.3654 said:

It does feel like the best ideas had already been used up in HoT and PoF, be that specialisations, mounts or features like fishing. The new map content and story could still be really great, but since so little has been shown it’s hard to know. 

If there was something great to show, it would have been shown by now, to create hype and generate advertising which always increases sales. But these great new features were not shown, because they don't exist. (or maybe, just maybe, they do not want to increase sales?)

From what I see, they expect customers to buy the expansion mainly because of: Cantha region memories, turtle mount, some new specializations... and that's about it.

However, Cantha most likely will be an improved copy-paste from Guild Wars 1 (because it has to have the same feeling), specializations have effects of copy-paste (as many players noticed so far), items have auras of copy-paste (like the new legendary amulet obtained in 20+ weeks, and with exactly the same aura of Bifrost). But hey, we get turtles, right?

No. I am guessing they will not release the expansion in February, because we don't even have a release date, 2 months before February. They will most likely adopt the tactic of Amazon's New World, and delay this copy-paste expansion, while people still pre-purchase, giving time to develop something for the product, using customer's money.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Alin.2468

[ProtoGunner.4953]

You know everybody hated Mirage back then and look how people coped with that. Just get used to it and you will like it. Calm down, don't feel eligible to get 'the best'. As far as I have tested without any expectations, I liked most new subclasses.

[babak.3654]

45 minutes ago, ProtoGunner.4953 said:

You know everybody hated Mirage back then and look how people coped with that. Just get used to it and you will like it. Calm down, don't feel eligible to get 'the best'. As far as I have tested without any expectations, I liked most new subclasses.

It’s easy to be happy if you have zero expectations. If we’re being asked to pay for an expansion it’s reasonable to have some expectations, not least that the new specialisations will be viable outside of open world PvE.

[ProtoGunner.4953]

On 12/1/2021 at 1:08 PM, witcher.3197 said:

Speaking of Vindicator, all of its weapon animations are recycled.

Skill 2 is mesmer GS 5.

Skill 3 is warrior GS 5 + Riposting Shadows.

Skill 4 is ranger GS4.

Skill 5 is reaper GS 2.

Animations are an important part of a spec's identity. When ALL of the animations are borrowed from other classes, that can come off as cheap. After 5 years we needed something that feels new and fresh, this is not it.

I forgot to say holy kitten the music during Urn and all the angelic voices and 'music' is cool when you use the skills - especially on the Kurzick side - but you may not have even noticed that. This is also great flavour. I just tested it a couple of days ago and I really like it. Animations are cool anyways, recycled or not. This is next level style for an MMO. Other games don't even bother. This is stuff you may find in single player AAA games or well I think I played a champ in LoL (Bard) which had a similar feel.

[Norbe.7630]

3 hours ago, ProtoGunner.4953 said:

Animations are cool anyways, recycled or not. This is next level style for an MMO.

Have you seen the Virtuoso dagger auto attack?
Imagine a thief spamming auto attack on air then you add a pink projectile, that's virtuoso. If people will be fooled in that, then it really is a next level lmao.

Now, pay attention to this character Gilgamesh where the Virtuoso is copied from.
His Auto attack from 33-36 second mark where he summons and slashes enemy with dagger then summons an axe to the portal to do 2nd strike, then summons again a lance to pierce the enemy on its 3rd strike. Come back to virtuoso look at its attacks then come back here, tell me what you see. If they gonna copy paste from another game make sure they do it better.🙄
 

And btw, the first time i saw the art work of the Virtuoso this singer came to my mind, an 80s singer. I was freaking....Shattered....
 

 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Norbe.7630

[Kelian Ravenwood.4130]

It's amazing to me how much here is stated as fact when being opinions:
"The elites suck"... have you conducted a survey to determine this is an opinion held by everyone?  I know quite a few players who enjoy most if not all of the beta specs and are excited for the elites.
"Fishing sucks"... yet, for some reason, you can search this very forum and find many posts asking for fishing to be brought to GW2
"The maps are trash"... I personally thought some of the elements were great, some were not... similar to how I felt about the other two expansions (and the core game at launch)
All I'm saying is have your opinion, feel free to express your opinion and discuss it, but please remember it's your opinion.  If you think the game will be as terrible as many here are claiming, then I will sadly not see you in-game... I hope something else can bring you the joy you had hoped GW2 would.  Me, I am excited for most of the elements I've seen so far and believe I will enjoy them immensely; if you feel the same way, I look forward to seeing you in Cantha!  👍

[Monarc.9726]

On 12/1/2021 at 4:40 PM, Norbe.7630 said:

Elite spec ranking: Creativity, Idea, Playability.
S tier: HoT
A tier: Core
B tier: PoF
Cash tier: EoD

To be fair, PoF brought some amazing elite specs, most of my current favorite fun builds are from PoF…

[Norbe.7630]

1 hour ago, Monarc.9726 said:

To be fair, PoF brought some amazing elite specs, most of my current favorite fun builds are from PoF…

Core offered all 8 class.
HoT offered a new class, Revenant, to balance all weight classes numbers along with the new locked trait to other class which was called elite spec which really feels different from the core class.
PoF was expected to add 3 more class, one to each class weight but was not, trend for greatness broke.
EoD just added copy pasted ones.
We are only talking about class aspects yah.
If there will be a next xpac to EoD, what would you think it will be or expect it to be?

[Linken.6345]

9 minutes ago, Norbe.7630 said:

Core offered all 8 class.
HoT offered a new class, Revenant, to balance all weight classes numbers along with the new locked trait to other class which was called elite spec which really feels different from the core class.
PoF was expected to add 3 more class, one to each class weight but was not, trend for greatness broke.
EoD just added copy pasted ones.
We are only talking about class aspects yah.
If there will be a next xpac to EoD, what would you think it will be or expect it to be?

PoF was not expected to add any class since we had 3 of each after HoT.

What ever you are smoking I want some.

[b k.1648]

There was no suggestion from any reputable source that PoF was supposed to add more classes.

[Norbe.7630]

1 minute ago, Ben K.6238 said:

There was no suggestion from any reputable source that PoF was supposed to add more classes.

expected is different from supposed

[b k.1648]

Depends on context. In this case, you're welcome to assume they mean the same thing; ANet never made any claim that they would add more after the Revenant. Therefore, there was no reasonable expectation they would do so.

[Norbe.7630]

1 minute ago, Ben K.6238 said:

Depends on context. In this case, you're welcome to assume they mean the same thing; ANet never made any claim that they would add more after the Revenant. Therefore, there was no reasonable expectation they would do so.

But there are people who expected there would be.
Why do you need reputable source for that?
 

[ChronoPinoyX.7923]

10 hours ago, Norbe.7630 said:

Have you seen the Virtuoso dagger auto attack?
Imagine a thief spamming auto attack on air then you add a pink projectile, that's virtuoso. If people will be fooled in that, then it really is a next level lmao.

Now, pay attention to this character Gilgamesh where the Virtuoso is copied from.
His Auto attack from 33-36 second mark where he summons and slashes enemy with dagger then summons an axe to the portal to do 2nd strike, then summons again a lance to pierce the enemy on its 3rd strike. Come back to virtuoso look at its attacks then come back here, tell me what you see. If they gonna copy paste from another game make sure they do it better.

Bruh, you really just assumed they copied Gilgamesh? If you really wanna grasp that straw so hard, Gilgamesh copied Vergil from Devil May Cry, who had the ability to summon swords since the first DMC game back in 2001, the first Fate game came out in 2004. 

If anyone needs to get out this forum cave, it's you. For someone who refunded the expac, the fact that you're still here being hostile towards people enjoying the expansion shows you really need to leave the forums for a bit and maybe go touch some grass or something. 

[b k.1648]

32 minutes ago, Norbe.7630 said:

But there are people who expected there would be.
Why do you need reputable source for that?
 

There are people who expect all kinds of absurd things. Unless that expectation is widely held (it wasn't) or there's a logical reason why it should have been widely held (there wasn't), it's invalid in a generalization about what people expect.

[Norbe.7630]

11 minutes ago, Ben K.6238 said:

There are people who expect all kinds of absurd things. Unless that expectation is widely held (it wasn't) or there's a logical reason why it should have been widely held (there wasn't), it's invalid in a generalization about what people expect.

Hmmm.
I already said there are people expected it. I don't know what you exactly wanted though.
But yeah people expect absurd things like PvP or WvW content changes, its absurd yah, heres the thing they added fishing content in an xpac instead of adding it on the living season. Now tell me which is absurd.

btw, might wanna update this picture on the EoD content offered like fishing yah?https://i.imgur.com/Xtmu7kq.jpg

Edited December 3, 2021 by Norbe.7630