Spectre Sc/d3 and Sc/p3 don't work in action camera [Merged]

[Merrick The Vengeful.3267]

Combo skills for scepter don't quite work in action camera when targeting enemies.

Scepter/Dagger 3 says i need to target an enemy or ally.

Scepter/Pistol 3 casts the first half of the skill, then says you need to target an enemy or ally when you try to use the second half.

 

Both of these work if you're siphoning an ally, or if you tab out of action camera long enough to press the skill.

Edited October 26, 2021 by Merrick The Vengeful.3267

[Khisanth.2948]

Well there is the obvious question. Do you have a an enemy or ally targeted? Action camera's definition of targeted is not the same not action camera. You need to have the reticle on a target for it to be considered targeted.

[Onewing Clan.6294]

If you're using action cam, attempting to use the the 3 of the 4 dual skills on Specter's scepter will yield the "You must have an enemy or ally targeted to use this skill" error message, causing the skills will fail to activate even when you have a target selected or even marked; only Measured Shot (the first half of  Scepter/Pistol's dual skill) will execute successfully. None of the pertinent target settings—Autotargetting, Promote Skill Target, or Allow Skill Retargetting—have any effect in solving the issue when disabling or enabling them in any combination. This obviously renders people who use Action Cam and have their settings or keybinds built around it unable to use the Specter's scepter adequately. 

[Onewing Clan.6294]

Update: the action camera issue that causes the skill to fail to activate seems to only affect the offensive version of the weapon (i.e. when targeting an enemy player or NPC). The defensive versions (i.e. when targeting an ally player or NPC) seem to be activating fine with action camera. 

[Rin.1046]

I hope they fix this before the beta ends. As someone who has almost exclusively used action cam mode since it was added, I am finding it very difficult to find a good flow with the spec, and therefore not really getting a good enough feel for it when fighting enemies.

[Sikil.9817]

Me too! I hope there's an easy fix. The game feels so much worse without action camera. I want to like Specter and right now this issue is preventing me from enjoying it.

[Rin.1046]

14 hours ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

Well there is the obvious question. Do you have a an enemy or ally targeted? Action camera's definition of targeted is not the same not action camera. You need to have the reticle on a target for it to be considered targeted.

That's not quite how action cam works. You can still use skills when not aiming at enemies, it's just that you will miss if you're not, but it still lets you fire the shot. This bug prevents the skill being used altogether, whether you're aiming directly at them or not.

[Da Kril.2695]

Can confirm, with action camera on, Scepter skill 3 (Twilight Combo) will not work.
Enemy is targeted, reticle is on its face, press 3 and it says "You need to have an enemy targeted to use that skill."

Turn action camera off, everything works fine.

Edited October 27, 2021 by Da Kril.2695

[Onewing Clan.6294]

@Khisanth.2948 seeing as to how these topics got merged, you might have missed my description Yes, even when you have an enemy targeted (even if you just called target on it), Endless Night (the second half of Scepter/Pistol's dual attack) and Twilight Combo (the first half of Scepter/Dagger's dual attack) will still fail to to activate and display the aforementioned error message. By doing nothing other than switching action camera mode off, the skill cease to fail to activate and it will work normally. The ally-targeting versions of the dual skills will still work normally with action camera; it's only the enemy-targeting versions that are bugged. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Onewing Clan.6294

[Onewing Clan.6294]

21 hours ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

Well there is the obvious question. Do you have a an enemy or ally targeted? Action camera's definition of targeted is not the same not action camera. You need to have the reticle on a target for it to be considered targeted.

My previous reply was intended to address this comment but for some reason it did not display the quote lol. 

 

[anjo.6143]

Still bugged for action cam, too bad

 

[Onewing Clan.6294]

2 hours ago, anjo.6143 said:

Still bugged for action cam, too bad

 

Thankfully, Wooden Potatoes also mentioned it in his Elite Spec review video yesterday, so they're hopefully at least aware of it and have it on their to-do list.

[anjo.6143]

Still nothing about it?

EDIT: Scepter without offhand also broken, should fire 3 times but the first 2 has animations but nothing happens

Edited October 30, 2021 by anjo.6143