how is warrior in pve?

[Mungrul.9358]

For the first time in a LONG time, this weekend I hopped in to some dungeons and fractals with some guild members and some randos, running my trusty old core Hambow build. And it made me realise that all the skills I'd had to learn just to survive as a warrior in the first place really pay off.

 

I had a pretty simple time of things, and I think went down maybe once (more on my Weaver, but hey, Ele gonna Ele). As noted, this was my first time playing instanced GW2 content in ages, but I noticeably did a lot better than other players who play this stuff on a daily basis.

 

Yes, my build helped somewhat, but most of my survivability was down to knowing when not to be somewhere, and despite never having seen many of these enemies before, it was all highly telegraphed and easy to avoid.

 

In that respect, it also addressed something else I've noticed about GW2. Coming from Destiny 2, where outside of the simplest instanced content, voice comms is pretty much required if you're going to succeed, dungeons and fractals didn't need voice comms at all. A couple of text explainers was all I got, and I reckon I could have gotten through even without them.

 

So my takeaway (if slightly self-centered) is that:

1: Playing warrior and playing it well has made me a better player.

2: "Hard" content in GW2 is not really that hard when compared to other games out there.

3: My success was less to do with my build and more to do with my personal skill.

 

But then, I think we only did T2 fractals?

I'll be interested to see if I fare as well at higher tiers.

[Myror.7521]

I myself wondering why people want me to play banners in fractals.

Its a 5 man Team and 2 of them only been dps that meant banners will only bring up to 2k more dps while if you would play Power or condi warrior without banners you deal around 5k more.

 

So technicaly playing banners in fractals is more a loss of damage than a buff.

[The Boz.2038]

They want you to play banners because you really can't bring anything else of worth in those utility slots. Your damage comes from your weapon skills and F1, sometimes Outrage sits in one slot, your heal is mandatory if you're berserker, whever if spellbreaker, your elite is either a bonk or another flag, and that leaves you with two empty utility slots that have no obvious best choice that actually improves your performance (unless your team is struggling with boon uptime). So you bring banners. 

[anbujackson.9564]

2 hours ago, Pati.2438 said:

I myself wondering why people want me to play banners in fractals.

Its a 5 man Team and 2 of them only been dps that meant banners will only bring up to 2k more dps while if you would play Power or condi warrior without banners you deal around 5k more.

 

So technicaly playing banners in fractals is more a loss of damage than a buff.

Fractals dont have long phases (except AI, but warrior isnt a good pick there anyway, pretty awful actually). 

Your utilities have little to no impact in these scenarios. You mostly stack rage skills to increase your berserker duration, which does nothing in short phases (the burning from pressing them doesnt have much of an effect and there isnt really anything else except FGJ if your offensive boons are bad for some reason). Its more of a hinderance because phases might screw you over if you are not careful with your duration. No berserker mode = no damage = you are worse than your hybrid supports. And since we still dont have a manual exit.. yeah. 

Also the difference isnt 5k. Between condi banner and dps its like 2-3k, probably even less because these numbers count in the banner effects as a full dps and you wont have them in your scenario.

As a power its 3-4k between banner and full dps, with a significant drop if you dont have them. 

Keep in mind that you profit the most from banners. You have no other utility that buffs condi damage in any significant way and you cant compensate the 150 ferocity and power (since you already have the power signet anyway) as a power berserker. 

So to summarize: You actually do less damage as a warrior if you dont have them in short phases (not counting in the buffs to the other four people). Pretty sad right?

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by anbujackson.9564

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

Yeah, but if you don't take banners in FotM, then you have Wildblow, SoM, Outrage, and Headbutt allowing you to do axe/- + -/axe and drop the CC weapon set.

[anbujackson.9564]

4 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

Yeah, but if you don't take banners in FotM, then you have Wildblow, SoM, Outrage, and Headbutt allowing you to do axe/- + -/axe and drop the CC weapon set.

True, but your weapon swap is just 5 seconds and you mostly can pre swap according to phases/start of the encounter. For the headbutt selfstun you can just run savage instinct I guess.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

3 hours ago, anbujackson.9564 said:

True, but your weapon swap is just 5 seconds and you mostly can pre swap according to phases/start of the encounter. For the headbutt selfstun you can just run savage instinct I guess.

Nah, that is what Outrage is for.