Roaming spellbreaker.

[captrowdy.9561]

So after playing all the classes I seem to like warrior the best. There’s people actually out there having fun and can 1vx on this class right? Just going by the forums it sounds like I should do horrible but I’ve been doing aight. Next option would be soulbeast which seems to be a great roamer? It just isn’t as fun to play for me. Does soulbeast out perform spellbreaker by a huge difference? Focus on roaming/1v1/1vx/small scale blah blah. 

[Morden Kain.3489]

There are basically 5 types of warriors in WvW I have come across and 1vX..

1. Those I trash (normally over within 10 seconds)
2. Those I get trashed by (I am dead within 10 seconds)
3. Those I almost trash, and they run away trying to find their mama
4. Those that actually know how to play the class (combat lasts a while, and then someone joins the battle and one of us gets downed)
5. The zerg/blob runners

Of course those same 5 types play across the spectrum for all classes.  If you enjoy it, play it.  Just beware the meta.

[Hotride.2187]

If you are on war, 1v1 should be fine in a most cases. You will likely struggle with thief and tanky cele builds (mesmer most of all I think), but everything else is fairly winnable if you play well (you will have to be patient though).

1vx I personally find to be a no go on war (assuming you are the 1), unless your opponents are not good at pvp combat. 1v2 might be winnable in some rare cases (again, assuming your opponents are of equal skill to you). Your main option there is to run and turn as soon as only one is chasing and is isolated enough to kill. Though honestly assuming good players on good builds, I don't think most professions will win 1vx. War at least can run fairly well, so you usually can escape (if your opponents are dedicated though, they will chase you down with mounts).

For comparing SB vs SpB, it depends. SpB has boon removal and boon steal (via sigil of absorption) which is huge in roaming, as everything spams boons like there is no tomorrow (including SB). If you consistently steal boons, other professions struggle a lot vs SpB. SB on the other hand has more raw power and sustain. More importantly SB has ranged options, so you can range pressure opponents in small scale encounters.

IMO SB should be the safer option a lot of the time, requiring less investment to get results with. War might take a while to get the hang of.

If you want support or group play, I'm not sure how well war goes in small scale that is less than 10v10 (15v15, 20v20 I already see a bubble war on each side, 50v50 usually has even 2-3). For really small groups (like 5 players) condi with support is king in wvw right now; engi and FB are better supports than war. And war doesn't have a good condi option.

[Dawdler.8521]

15 minutes ago, Hotride.2187 said:

And war doesn't have a good condi option.

No they only have enough power damage to kill players within a couple seconds stuns, the poor warriors.

[Hotride.2187]

2 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

No they only have enough power damage to kill players within a couple seconds stuns, the poor warriors.

So like, replace 1 of the condi tanks with a war and the small party is already better? How weird, I've not seen that being done. I guess those players must be really dumb yeah?

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

1 hour ago, captrowdy.9561 said:

So after playing all the classes I seem to like warrior the best. There’s people actually out there having fun and can 1vx on this class right? Just going by the forums it sounds like I should do horrible but I’ve been doing aight. Next option would be soulbeast which seems to be a great roamer? It just isn’t as fun to play for me. Does soulbeast out perform spellbreaker by a huge difference? Focus on roaming/1v1/1vx/small scale blah blah. 

You can do fine on any warrior spec while roaming, it's just easier to do with other professions. Cele warrior is pretty strong, but the fights will last longer.

I've been running a core glass stat warrior lately and been doing fine with it. 

There are some classes with builds that will wreck you, but that's WvW for you. There are builds that just hard counter others independent of skill levels and WvW roaming has lots of room for build diversity unlike PvP.

A good Soulbeast is one of the best roaming classes. Particularly in that a good Soulbeast will get their burst off on a target before they can react and that burst will down almost everyone in 2s, less if they are mounted on Warclaw.

Talking small scale, I like running Phalanx Strength, FGJ, Leg Specialist, and a rifle. Put 22 stacks of Vuln on the target, immob them, and give my allies 24 might stacks and fury. People don't like that happening to them.

[Dawdler.8521]

55 minutes ago, Hotride.2187 said:

So like, replace 1 of the condi tanks with a war and the small party is already better? How weird, I've not seen that being done. I guess those players must be really dumb yeah?

For a 2 man? Probably not. For a 3 man? Maybe. For a 5 man? Hahaha... a power build can have the enemy on low hp before the condi tank has even started. Especially if the enemy 5 man they are fighting is dumb enough to bring condi tanks vs a party with 2 supports (or probably 3).

[Telgum.6071]

1 hour ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

No they only have enough power damage to kill players within a couple seconds stuns, the poor warriors.

Like every class in the game lmao, but not every class has condi cleanse spam.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Telgum.6071