lightstalker.1498 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Why do the same players that hate thief and stealth also defend DH having stealth via trapper runes? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Show me the evidence. Prove that it is the same players saying both things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Probably the "if you can't beat 'em join 'em" crowd. At least trapper DH is glassy to do their damage. And if you force them to use traps to stealth defensively they lose a lot of their offensive pressure from the traps. Yeah they can be a pain but that's more about using invuln to cover themselves so they can drop another trap and disappear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvia.4870 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 10:32 AM, lightstalker.1498 said: Why do the same players that hate thief and stealth also defend DH having stealth via trapper runes? If one can get used to the nature of stealth in the game, I believe one will be able to deal with a foe in the shadow eventually. It takes the long, continuous exercise to detect where the opponent can possibly stay, what he intends to use as an incoming attack and when he decides to do so. Providing that one can overcome such a nuisance, the trapper runes will be natural in one's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizekent.2398 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Ye, there are some good reasons on why guardian can't generate stealth by their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viquing.8254 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Like the ones saying mesmer scepter 3 does too much direct damage while with the same gear necro 2 axe, ranger 2 bow and other similar skills does more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Because I can dodge through their traps and ruin their entire build in 5sec? Its not the same, at all. Pure Power DH is far more dangerous, able to pin you down and nearly kill you in one shot, or lay traps that destroy the entire enemy team on the point in 2-3sec. Trapper rune actually lowers their direct damage significantly since its condi, and the main benefit is the superspeed, not the stealth. Also most complaints I've seen about Thief are in WvW, not PvP, where Deadeyes can follow small groups of players all around the map with permastealth, or Daredevils can outrun an entire zerg chasing them. Thief doesn't even fight in PvP, only decap, and honestly it seems kind of weak here in comparison. Initiative means I need to be using only autos to attack if I want to have energy to escape, since my main purpose in the game is to not die and keep moving between nodes. Honestly stealth classes are kind of meh in PvP in general since you have to fight on points anyway. Edited February 3, 2022 by Hannelore.8153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 12:32 AM, lightstalker.1498 said: Why do the same players that hate thief and stealth also defend DH having stealth via trapper runes? because they say the class needs it to be viable lol, just make dh unviable, trapper runes is a thing that should not exist at all ppl even want shadow arts nerfed even if it's the wrong approach, smokescreen is surely kitten should get 1 min cd and 5 secs duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blink.2647 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 1:32 PM, lightstalker.1498 said: Why do the same players that hate thief and stealth also defend DH having stealth via trapper runes? Trapper Rune DH isn't a problem for me. Just wait till you come across some good ones with marauder and divinity runes.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizekent.2398 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Midnight.9657 said: Trapper Rune DH isn't a problem for me. Just wait till you come across some good ones with marauder and divinity runes.... HP ammy with less dmg, withouth toughness vs superspeed + stealth spam without icd, idk man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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