Buying expansion condition

[Loboling.5293]

Let me be clear, since there doesn't seem to be any clear goal by anet to address my concerns over bladesworn.

 

I will not be buying this expansion until bladesworn can weapon stow their gunblade.

 

That is all. I welcome others to make statements over what is stopping them from buying EoD.

 

Personally, if I get bored with what I'm doing now in game, I may buy it one day when it's on sale for less than 20$. For now, I just want to have fun in PvP and this game has just turned to kitten for competitive game modes. 

 

Luckily the game 7days to die is keeping me busy until this company can remember their competitive community. 

 

There's a lot more I want, but this is my rule I'm laying down. PvP on warrior lives and die by the stow and I'm not jumping through hoops to try and enjoy my mains new espec.

 

Ps: I played almost 50 hours of bladesworn already during beta. I know what I want from it. And I'm fed it with the silence.

[Ariurotl.3718]

2 minutes ago, Loboling.5293 said:

I welcome others to make statements over what is stopping them from buying EoD.

I don't have any money!

[Tashigi.3159]

I buy the expansions to support ANET in general, though lately I don't really play the game past the expansion's first few weeks.

If I had to give ANET a suggestion to improve the game and keep me engaged longer, it would be the same I've given them for years.

 

1 The LFG is quite poor and needs a lot of re-working, specially needs to be made more friendly to new players, I can't count the number of people I've bought the game/expansions for only for them to not even last more than a few hours before quitting 'cause they feel lost when playing without someone to guide them.

2 Game lacks direction/meaningful progression, I wouldn't know how to fix this without comparing it to other games such as FF14, etc. I rather they do something unique, rather than copy & paste from another game, but don't give me the whole "But legendaries". That's long term goals for cosmetics. What then, once you have them? Nothing left.

3 Frequent content updates and potential old content re-adjustment/polishing.

 

It's obviously a lot of work and would take years, but many people have made these suggestions since Heart of Thorns, that was what? 6 years ago?

IDK I'll stop here, just ranting now lol

[Rasimir.6239]

13 hours ago, Tashigi.3159 said:

many people have made these suggestions since Heart of Thorns, that was what? 6 years ago?

What you're looking for seems to be vertical progression. There have always been people asking for it, not just since HoT, but since the release of the game, but that's not what this game set out to do. The idea has always been that "meaningful" progression (as in the kind of progression that changes your character's power and the things you can do/access/accomplish in game) is relatively short. Once you reach the plateau, you are then able to progress horizontally in any direction you enjoy, without needing to jump through other hoops first to prepare for the content you want to play.

[Chichimec.9364]

21 hours ago, Loboling.5293 said:

...I welcome others to make statements over what is stopping them from buying EoD...

Nothing. I pre-ordered EoD as soon as it became available. My reason for doing so was pretty simple. The barrage of ugliness on this forum toward EoD was so bad that I wanted to concretely show that I have enjoyed playing GW2 for four years and am looking forward to playing it for more years going forward. Is the current game or the coming expansion perfect? No, of course not. There's always room for improvement in everything. I just got tired of the endless badmouthing toward EoD that's been going on here.

Edited February 5, 2022 by Chichimec.9364

[AgentMoore.9453]

2 hours ago, Chichimec.9364 said:

I pre-ordered EoD as soon as it became available. My reason for doing so was pretty simple. The barrage of ugliness on this forum toward EoD was so bad that I wanted to concretely show that I have enjoyed playing GW2 for four years and am looking forward to playing it for more years going forward.

Serious question, but if the forum was all roses, does that mean you wouldn't have bought EoD? I ask because I typically purchase things because of what they can offer me, not because of what other people think.

22 hours ago, Loboling.5293 said:

I will not be buying this expansion until bladesworn can weapon stow their gunblade.

Fair take. I put in for EoD because I want to go fishing, but if your draw is specs and the specs look lame, you're probably better off waiting for EoD to go on sale. You're definitely not the only person who looked at the gunblade and winced, but lucky for me the gunblade is not a fishing pole, so it didn't impact my choice.

[Dawdler.8521]

Can we say I'm not buying EoD until engineer pistol have the rate of fire Anet state it have instead of actually firing 40% slower too?

Wait, then we shouldnt have bought PoF.

Or HoT.

Or GW2 for that matter.

Nevermind.

[Chichimec.9364]

3 hours ago, AgentMoore.9453 said:

Serious question, but if the forum was all roses, does that mean you wouldn't have bought EoD? I ask because I typically purchase things because of what they can offer me, not because of what other people think...

Both the siege turtle and the mechanist intrigued me and there were definitely goodies in the pre-order packages that I liked. So I probably would have gotten around to pre-ordering it eventually. However, it was the barrage of ugliness here on the forum that had me lined up and ready to go, cash in hand, as soon as the pre-order was available. I literally did order it within the first few minutes of its availability. For me, that was not a response to what people were thinking but to what they were doing. If I were a designer who had put time and effort into creating something, I would have been heartsick at the way so many people here were reacting. So I very much wanted to send an immediate, concrete message to Anet that not everyone was reacting to EoD with such hostility.

[Raizel.1839]

Just don't buy it then, world will not end.

Edited February 6, 2022 by Raizel.1839

[Yttris.2945]

On 2/4/2022 at 4:25 PM, Loboling.5293 said:

That is all. I welcome others to make statements over what is stopping them from buying EoD.

 

Not worth the money, same as HoT and PoF. Content made purely for players' five billionth alts that can go through the entire base game blindfolded and not getting hit once.

 

Will be amused if PoF becomes free once EoD is released. Because it's old content.

[Donari.5237]

The only thing stopping me is that I already bought it and I don't do multiple accounts.

I mean I know I will be buying it, so may as well get the pre-order goodies, hey?  I'm in an active RP guild, our story is going to Cantha along with the game story.  I certainly wouldn't let one single aspect of one elite spec stop me from playing.  Neither would I demand anyone stay in the game who isn't having fun, no matter what their reason for not having fun.  Big or small, if you'd rather avoid part or all of the game, that's your choice.  I hope you enjoy what you do choose to play.

[DaFishBob.6518]

A commitment to not double down on adding more unavoidable visual effects that can impair game play or even make it harmful to a person's health. For those who think the visuals will not be that bad in EoD, it doesn't matter because it already is that bad outside of EoD and this chunk of flesh from Anet's bottom line is for everything beforehand as well. The last thing I want to give them is encouragement to keep obsessing over "shiny."

[Alcatraznc.3869]

Then dont buy the expansion. And after reading what you said, it feels like you're about to simply stop playing the game.

 

I personnally already preordered the expansion because :

1 - I would buy it on release anyway since I want to know the story and have new content to mess around

2 - Pre order bonus comes with small but nice goodies (bless the shared inventory slot) AND is pretty cheap. 

 

 

[Vfhnbycjy.8312]

I bought the extension because I like the game

[yoni.7015]

I already pre ordered the expansion, I want to play it, I like what we have seen so far and it’s really not much money. 

[Teratus.2859]

Expansion continues the story and expands the lore, story and lore are at least 90% of the reason I play and enjoy games.

Games without story do not interest or entertain me.. unless they are survival sandboxes like 7 days to die or Minecraft, I make an exception for them cause they are still fun ^^

Edited February 6, 2022 by Teratus.2859

[Loboling.5293]

21 hours ago, Chichimec.9364 said:

Nothing. I pre-ordered EoD as soon as it became available. My reason for doing so was pretty simple. The barrage of ugliness on this forum toward EoD was so bad that I wanted to concretely show that I have enjoyed playing GW2 for four years and am looking forward to playing it for more years going forward. Is the current game or the coming expansion perfect? No, of course not. There's always room for improvement in everything. I just got tired of the endless badmouthing toward EoD that's been going on here.

But you can keep playing the game and even support them in other ways. I don't plan to quit GW2, but I'd be lying to say I've ever felt the urge to replay a strike mission or a dragon response mission. There has been no content in the last few years I've been eager to replay. Shame really, but the core game, HoT and occasionally PoF offer a lot of fun.

Maybe I only play an hour per week now, compared to previously when I would play 5-6 hours per week, but I'm not going to stop playing cause I no longer enjoy the story or new content group play.

 

Most of that used to be playing competitive, so lucky for me, with it being something I may only play a game per season now (instead of enjoying grinding to my final chest), I won't have to get beaten down much by the new elite specs. Maybe if competitive was good again, maybe I'd feel tempted. But there's plenty of fun to be had in this game. And I'll continue to buy things I want and enjoy from the game. Just wish this expansion was one of them. But enjoy it! I will spend most of my gaming on other games, dipping in when I want to explore the amazing world of GW2.

[Loboling.5293]

8 hours ago, Teratus.2859 said:

Expansion continues the story and expands the lore, story and lore are at least 90% of the reason I play and enjoy games.

Games without story do not interest or entertain me.. unless they are survival sandboxes like 7 days to die or Minecraft, I make an exception for them cause they are still fun ^^

I'm launching a new server in March if you're still enjoying 7 days by then. ❤️ That game just keeps satisfying me and you can play it any way you want in any version since release. (Aka, don't like an update, just change the game to your liking. Best game ever made imo!) 

 

We play hardcore usually, single death, but I'm not sure the server settings just yet. Expect hardcore experience, as I too like to RP in all my games and 7 days where you just respawn and have no challenge from a zombie apocalypse that killed everyone else doesn't do it for me. Enjoy both games and I hope you decide to join then!😁

[Loboling.5293]

19 hours ago, AgentMoore.9453 said:

Serious question, but if the forum was all roses, does that mean you wouldn't have bought EoD? I ask because I typically purchase things because of what they can offer me, not because of what other people think.

Fair take. I put in for EoD because I want to go fishing, but if your draw is specs and the specs look lame, you're probably better off waiting for EoD to go on sale. You're definitely not the only person who looked at the gunblade and winced, but lucky for me the gunblade is not a fishing pole, so it didn't impact my choice.

It's funny, but fishing would be the thing I'm most excited about to. I just can't justify the cost of fishing for the price. Not a fan of the rest so far unfortunately. But if my gunblade was replaced with a fishing pole (fish-blade), I'd probably give it a shot as well!😂

They could even call it Gon-blade for the hunter x hunter fans!🙃

[Teratus.2859]

14 hours ago, Loboling.5293 said:

I'm launching a new server in March if you're still enjoying 7 days by then. ❤️ That game just keeps satisfying me and you can play it any way you want in any version since release. (Aka, don't like an update, just change the game to your liking. Best game ever made imo!) 

 

We play hardcore usually, single death, but I'm not sure the server settings just yet. Expect hardcore experience, as I too like to RP in all my games and 7 days where you just respawn and have no challenge from a zombie apocalypse that killed everyone else doesn't do it for me. Enjoy both games and I hope you decide to join then!😁

I am already involved with a really good discord gaming community that runs servers for multiple survival games including 7 days, ARK, Minecraft and more.
Been with them for a good couple years now.

I play so many other games off and on as well that it would be difficult for me jump around to other groups and stuff especially to play the same games so I prefer just to stick with one for convenience.

Thanks for the offer though 🙂 hope your server goes really well ^^

[mercury ranique.2170]

Everyone should have their own motive to buy the expansion or not. To each their own.
Personally I've bought the expansion. Even though I'm not super enthousiastic about it.
Fishing to me is a nice gimmick, but nothing more then that.
The boats are on the same point for me
I used to main a guardian before PoF, but i was bored with it and disliked the new guardian elite back then. I switched to engineer/holosmith and have enjoyed it a lot since then. The new engineer elite is less my liking and I do not think I'll play it a  lot. I am interested so far in the necromancer elite. So it might just be that I'll switch to main necromancer, but not sure yet.
As for the story or the maps, not enough info is known to make a decission.

Further more, I have not played as much as of late due to how my life changed. Back in 2012 I was single and without a job. I played about 8-10 hours per day. Now 10 years later I got a job again. I'm married and have a kid running around. My play time is now limited to 8-10 hours per month (with the exception of new releases when I check out whats new)

The main reason for buying it is cause I understand not every release will be my thing. I disliked the meta events in HoT but loved the explorability in PoF. But my interest in the game has never changed and I still love it.

If the ability to enjoy a specific element of a elite spec is the reason for not buying an expansion, I suspect there is more going on.

I understand you dislike this, and suspect you want to pressurise them, but I doubt this is the way.

[Tukaram.8256]

I pre-ordered as soon as I could.  New Cantha maps, skiffs, and fishing.  I am all set! 😎

Stowing a weapon is a cosmetic I could not care less about.  I do not care if my avatar is showing his weapon or not, as long as he can use it. I don't care what the armor looks like, as long as it works. All I ever see is my cape anyway... 

[Gibson.4036]

4 minutes ago, Tukaram.8256 said:

I pre-ordered as soon as I could.  New Cantha maps, skiffs, and fishing.  I am all set! 😎

Stowing a weapon is a cosmetic I could not care less about.  I do not care if my avatar is showing his weapon or not, as long as he can use it. I don't care what the armor looks like, as long as it works. All I ever see is my cape anyway... 

It’s not purely cosmetic. People use stow weapon to cancel a skill in PvP.

I’m not supporting OPs demands, just noting that it does have gameplay use.

Edited February 7, 2022 by Gibson.4036

[IndigoSundown.5419]

I bought EoD because I enjoy playing with my guild.  I expect some of the elite specs will be useful in WvW, so I expect to get some mileage from that.  We also run Strike Missions, so more mileage there.  I am also looking forward to exploring the new maps.  Without those reasons, I would not have bought the XPac.

 

Fishing in other games was a massive bore and I doubt it can be different here.  Skiffs and the Siege Turtle mount are yawners.  Several of the elite specs, unless heavily modified, will not be on my list of things to get.  ANet story has been going downhill (with a couple of exceptions) since someone decided that in order to progress the story I had to play a mini game as Caithe back in Season One.  Finally, the absence of an effects slider make open world meta events a visual annoyance and headache starter.

[Goettel.4389]

"there doesn't seem to be any clear goal by anet to address my concerns"

That's obviously completely unacceptable ; - )