Sobx.1758 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Swagger.1459 said: GW2 isn't any other game, so if your logic is "GW1 isn't GW2", then for sure we need to reevaluate all the things GW2 copied from other games because they don't belong. Because, ya know, GW2 shouldn't implement idea from other games, let alone from the original Guild Wars. Yes, I agree that in this context "GW2 isn't any other game" and I never implied that, but any other game than gw2 is. Despite sharing naming and lore, GW2 and GW1 are vastly different, with different mechanics and gameplay structures. btw I never said anything along the lines of "everything needs to be completely original or different from the other games", which is what you're trying to wrongfully suggest now. At this point I'm not even sure if there's some language barrier here or you're doing it on purpose. Quote I'm asking you. You provided a nonanswer to that question by defaulting to "someone said stuff and I agree". That doesn't explain how Heroes would impact your gameplay at all. Make sure to read the thread and address what was already writen in it, instead of trying to bait people into compiling the thread for you, since that's not going to happen. Aguments are already in this thread. Read it and address what was written. That's all. Is there anything unclear about what I wrote above? Until you read through the thread and decide to actually address the arguments that were already listed here, I am not going to provide anything more for you, since there clearly is no reason for that. The arguments are already here, so have fun with doing whatever you're currently trying to do. Edited February 9, 2022 by Sobx.1758 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Sobx.1758 said: Yes, I agree that in this context "GW2 isn't any other game" and I never implied that, but any other game than gw2 is. Despite sharing naming and lore, GW2 and GW1 are vastly different, with different mechanics and gameplay structures. btw I never said anything along the lines of "everything needs to be completely original or different from the other games", which is what you're trying to wrongfully suggest now. At this point I'm not even sure if there's some language barrier here or you're doing it on purpose. Make sure to read the thread and address what was already writen in it, instead of trying to bait people into compiling the thread for you, since that's not going to happen. Aguments are already in this thread. Read it and address what was written. That's all. Is there anything unclear about what I wrote above? Until you read through the thread and decide to actually address the arguments that were already listed here, I am not going to provide anything more for you, since there clearly is no reason for that. The arguments are already here, so have fun with doing whatever you're currently trying to do. Then there shouldn’t be any issues with Heroes for some instance content since GW1 did it successfully. And I’m sure you don’t have a big “legal botting” problem with “Heroes” that exist in the story modes… You’ve not brought up any rational reason to not have Heroes, nor have you explained how any players running a dungeon with Heroes negatively impacts your gameplay. 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Swagger.1459 said: Then there shouldn’t be any issues with Heroes for some instance content since GW1 did it successfully. And I’m sure you don’t have a big “legal botting” problem with “Heroes” that exist in the story modes… You’ve not brought up any rational reason to not have Heroes, nor have you explained how any players running a dungeon with Heroes negatively impacts your gameplay. The reasons were already given in the thread. Those reasons talk about how implementing legal bots can negatively impact the game's community -and if it impacts the community (it does), it also impacts me. Not a rocket science. Still not going to condense the thread for you. Really, if it's still not clear for some reason -unless you actually start responding to the reasons already given in this thread, this is the only response you're going to get from me. Because the reasons are already there and you're just avoiding them (or, if you're not actively avoiding them, it just means you didn't read the thread -one of the two) Edited February 9, 2022 by Sobx.1758 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: The reasons were already given in the thread. Those reasons talk about how implementing legal bots can negatively impact the game's community -and if it impacts the community (it does), it also impacts me. Not a rocket science. Still not going to condense the thread for you. Really, if it's still not clear for some reason -unless you actually start responding to the reasons already given in this thread, this is the only response you're going to get from me. Because the reasons are already there and you're just avoiding them (or, if you're not actively avoiding them, it just means you didn't read the thread -one of the two) I would avoid using the word “avoid”… Unfortunately, you haven’t provided any real reason to not implement Heroes, nor have you answered the question I’m asking you directly. And not sure if you’re newer to gw2, but dungeon development stopped like 6-7 years ago and Raids are no longer being developed as well. Pretty safe to say that the games reputation would be safe by adding in heroes like they use for story mode. If anything, maybe their will a uptick in overall participation. Edited February 9, 2022 by Swagger.1459 1 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Swagger.1459 said: I would avoid using the word “avoid”… Unfortunately, you haven’t provided any real reason to not implement Heroes, nor have you answered the question I’m asking you directly. And not sure if you’re newer to gw2, but dungeon development stopped like 6-7 years ago and Raids are no longer being developed as well. Pretty safe to say that the games reputation would be safe by adding in heroes like they use for story mode. If anything, maybe their will a uptick in overall participation. Without a change, the answer (mutliple of them, actually) is already in this thread. If you're not interested in reading through the thread and addressing what was said in it for some unknown reason, then it's your choice. I'm not newer and -as I already wrote in this thread- I'm still getting random groups for the group content despite some of the claims made in this thread. Introducing legal bots won't result in the uptick in overall participation, especially when you're trying to talk about raiding after giving the "current story npcs" as an example of mercs. What a weirdly disconnected claim to make. The fact dungeons are untouched is also fairly irrelevant, since there are refreshed dungeons in the form of fractals in their place. Not sure why this is even pulled in here though. Dungeons weren't even left behind because they were unpopular ("so legal bots need to fix it by giving them an uptick in overall participation"), as far as we know it's because replacing them with entirely new version was easier than remaking the old ones. tldr: the reasons are already in this thread, you're welcome to read through it and address multiple of the concerns raised on the previous pages. If you're not interested in doing that, then I'm not interested in repeating those reasons for you. Edited February 9, 2022 by Sobx.1758 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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