Metaljaw.6437 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 702 Divine Lucky Envelopes opened. 600+ MF 17 Ornamental Golden Trophies What did you all do to the loot tables???? This used to be a nice way to build up some gold for the year. Not to mention the lack of lucky envelopes from black lion chests this year too. 7 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Real glad that I decided to sell all my envelopes this year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Metaljaw.6437 said: 600+ MF There is your issue, players go up to 900% magic find. With 600, you simply got unlucky. 5 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I've not been keeping track overall (and it wouldn't mean much if I did because I was away for a week) but each time I've opened envelopes and then sold the junk I ended up with slightly more gold than I started with. I've bought all the weapon variants (except 5 I haven't unlocked yet) and some other stuff from the TP and I'm still ending the festival with slightly more gold than I started with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaljaw.6437 Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Cyninja.2954 said: There is your issue, players go up to 900% magic find. With 600, you simply got unlucky. I might need an explanation of that. I thought the max was 735. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatraznc.3869 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 The first day I bought 8 divines envelops and accidentally opened all of them. I managed to get the trophee that sells for 8.88 gold. That's when I realized I must have used all my luck there so I decided to sell all of them afterward. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining One.1635 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Metaljaw.6437 said: I might need an explanation of that. I thought the max was 735. Maximized Luck: 300 Luck from Achievements: Up to 36 Magic Find Consumables and Amulet Enrichment: 435 Silverwastes Maximum Perseverance (Complete 5 Events): 150 Hero of the Wastes (Silverwastes Meta Event Completion): 50 Theoretical Total: 971 Some people were even timing their envelop opening with Lost Bandit Chests, which doubles the Perseverance bonus for a few seconds, giving a theoretical maximum of: 1121 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Metaljaw.6437 said: 702 Divine Lucky Envelopes opened. 600+ MF 17 Ornamental Golden Trophies What did you all do to the loot tables???? Errr... I can't confirm that observation. I made more Gold from opening Envelopes than I lost from purchasing them from the NPC vendors. Strange... Edited February 15, 2022 by Ashantara.8731 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Metaljaw.6437 said: I might need an explanation of that. I thought the max was 735. I was opening envelopes with 975. I used food, utility, banner, guild buff, black lion boost, magic find boost, item booster, fireworks and I did both the silverwastes and vinewrath, which is where I opened my envelopes. I made a killing this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Vayne.8563 said: I made a killing this year. Define killing. How many envelopes? What returns? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega.6801 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 "I gambled on envelopes and lost" the thread. We have this every year. RNG is RNG is random is random. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose yadayadayada... 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaljaw.6437 Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, lokh.2695 said: "I gambled on envelopes and lost" the thread. We have this every year. RNG is RNG is random is random. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose yadayadayada... I never said I lost. I just only made about 25g over 3 weeks and across multiple accounts. That was compared to several hundred in past years on a single account. Either way, not really a helpful reply. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaljaw.6437 Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Shining One.1635 said: Theoretical Total: 971 Well crap. I've been stationing my MF maximizer in Ember Bay. Guess I need to move him to the silverwastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 but did they actually change them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boz.2038 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Metaljaw.6437 said: I never said I lost. I just only made about 25g over 3 weeks and across multiple accounts. That was compared to several hundred in past years on a single account. Either way, not really a helpful reply. Last year, I saved up 212 or so envelopes. Ate boosts, went to Silverwastes, did complete meta. ~300 gold payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaljaw.6437 Posted February 15, 2022 Author Share Posted February 15, 2022 @Doggie.3184 I know they didn't offer the Black Lion Chest Lunar which did have a large gold payout before, and I seem to remember getting 2 of the lower tier figurines and more of the high tier figurine quite bit more. And that was with a lot less MF than I did this year, so it seems at least the loot tables might have been adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, The Boz.2038 said: Last year, I saved up 212 or so envelopes. Ate boosts, went to Silverwastes, did complete meta. ~300 gold payout. RNG though. You'll have to datamine or something to really see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Uzumaki.1524 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Envelopes are fine, now those ones that you can buy with luck are garbage, bought 58, yeah i know not a big sample but still, got 57 of those lamps that sell for nothing and one food, with 850% MF, totally not worth it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpelion.4562 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I open my envelopes because I don't have maximum magic find yet (sitting at 580% with buffs). I've come out slightly ahead on gold (some days I lose some, but most days are a slight profit). I feel like the luck essence drops are pretty bad this year moreso than the trash to gold drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 11 hours ago, The Boz.2038 said: Define killing. How many envelopes? What returns? A lot of envelopes but I don't keep track that much. All I have is how much gold I was sitting on before the festival started and how much gold I ended up with at the end of that festival. Some of that guild would have come from just playing, as well as selling envelopes and some envelopes I bought from Guildies with low magic find. An accountant I'm not, but my gold went up thousands of gold...more than 2000 less than 4000. Could be anywhere in that range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said: Errr... I can't confirm that observation. I made more Gold from opening Envelopes than I lost from purchasing them from the NPC vendors. Strange... It seems that the previous year bug in which you get less chances for the 8g token the more MF you have was still in effect this year. At ~350% MF I earned quite a lot from those envelopes. I stopped using any buffs and kept to only base Mf as soon as i have noticed that at 700+ MF i get no 8g tokens at all. Edited February 16, 2022 by Astralporing.1957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue D Phoenix.7260 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I opened 250 with 770MF, got 9 of the gold statues, i even opened bandit chests. FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthan.5236 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) Ideally they should net a profit - when comparing to the NPC price (1g + the 90 silver for the other ones) ... and the trading post price should balance itself around (1.4g it is now I think) a price where the net profi would be almost 0 - considering a high magic find/luck. Would be weird if a player with tens of thousands of gold could make endlessly more gold by buying even more (which he can if he already has a lot money to start with) from the trading post + a high luck/magic find. But the tp and supply and demand will balance this. Guess I'll do that "for real" next year. Still need to max my luck. And this year I opened them daily. (Wasted a bit of the boosters of course - better to open them all at 1 day.) I still got - with magic find 400-500 a few of the expensive trophies. Didn't count them. Might just be bad luck I guess. Just having a certain probability doesn't mean it is impossible to have super bad luck. Theoretically 0 would have been possible in the case OP described. Edited February 16, 2022 by Luthan.5236 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Astralporing.1957 said: It seems that the previous year bug in which you get less chances for the 8g token the more MF you have was still in effect this year. At ~350% MF I earned quite a lot from those envelopes. I stopped using any buffs and kept to only base Mf as soon as i have noticed that at 700+ MF i get no 8g tokens at all. Like I stated before, I did not have the problem. I always used buffs (banners, boosters, buff food) and even went to the Silverwastes for an additional bonus and did receive the 8g tokens on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 You played the RNG game and lost. Sucks but it happens. I decided to just sell mine this year, made around 100g so I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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