Why can't we skip dialogue [Merged]

[Mrs Lana.2506]

On 3/5/2022 at 1:34 AM, figloalds.1274 said:

so far the only way that I know to get the core is doing the story

Once you have some level of Jade Bot mastery under your belt you can purchase recipes to make the cores with Research Notes. They're also tradeable so they can be found on the trading post.

Edited March 5, 2022 by Miss Lana.5276

[Gorem.8104]

18 hours ago, kettering.6823 said:

I was just lamenting this when I went too far during a story step and accidentally missed out on an easy achievement and wasn't able to go back. Knowing I'll have to redo all that talking and wandering around slowly just to get that achievement is not endearing... 

 

I mean I kind of understand why; GW2 seems to want to tell a lot of the story through environmental storytelling, and want you to feel 'immersed' while you are playing through story instances, which is why most dialogue is interwoven with action. But that makes it so frustrating to have to replay, especially when you're literally forced to for certain achievements or rewards. Not to mention if the game decides to glitch out or disconnect during a story instance as it is so wont to do, you have to redo everything you just did with no way to skip it. Like, no other big game these days seems to have unskippable story like this. 

 

I also have no idea why they went from most everything being account-wide to having to unlock everything per character for the jade bot. What was the motivation there? So weird. 

Motivation is player playtime. Notice how a lot of EoD stuff seems to be a grind, and they seem to want you to do it all over 9 times for each class. Seems their main concern with this expac was "how long can we keep people logged in" 

[Tuccos.8592]

I paid 79.99€ Ultimate to watch cutscenes and endless babbling with the End of Dragon story it seems....

 

Meanwhile i have to switch to Windowed Mode and Surf News, Internet and Chat until these infnite Cutscenes with babbling finally stop.

No way to SKIP either? Why do you Developers force me to watch what i dont want to watch as a customer?

And why is my character sneaking super slow when it comes to story scenes??? 

This is just horrible.... and breaks my will to play the EOD Story.

And that NINE (9) Times ???? honestly Game Designers???

 

Isnt it my own decicision if i want to watch what i have paid?

 

This is stealing my play and life-time, if i want to watch a Movie i sit in front of my TV

 

just my opinion ...

 

Edited March 6, 2022 by Tuccos.8592

[Gorem.8104]

Its honestly kind amazing just how much chatter happens, I am so glad we can turn it all off and watch something else/do something else while it just plays out forever in game. It'd be great to have a skip option but problem is we'd just be able to skip to the end of EoD and get all the rewards for it, as the entire story is extremely skippable as its mostly just dialogue dumps. Did some training, talk, talk talk talk talk talk talk talk, walk a bit, talk talk talk. Get rewards. Next quest, Talk Talk Talk Talk. 

[Gehenna.3625]

You paid 30 bucks for it and the rest was for skins, gem store items and discounted gems. No need to exaggerate to make a point. Besides, why would you do it 9 times? I just play the story through once (well twice for the return chapters) and the rest I teleport over without doing the story.

Still, I do agree with your point that convo's should be skippable. I'm 100% behind that.

Edited March 6, 2022 by Gehenna.3625

[Lottie.5370]

2 hours ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

You paid 30 bucks for it and the rest was for skins, gem store items and discounted gems. No need to exaggerate to make a point. Besides, why would you do it 9 times? I just play the story through once (well twice for the return chapters) and the rest I teleport over without doing the story.

Still, I do agree with your point that convo's should be skippable. I'm 100% behind that.

 

If you wanted to finish all the specialisation weapon collections, you would need to play though it 9 times. (Though it may be possible to get someone else to open the last story instance for you and complete that, and it may count).

 

 

Personally I really enjoy the dialogue as I'm doing the story, it feels more immersive than just cutscenes like in the personal story, and I like the writing in the expac (mostly).

[Gorem.8104]

9 hours ago, Lottie.5370 said:

 

If you wanted to finish all the specialisation weapon collections, you would need to play though it 9 times. (Though it may be possible to get someone else to open the last story instance for you and complete that, and it may count).

 

 

Personally I really enjoy the dialogue as I'm doing the story, it feels more immersive than just cutscenes like in the personal story, and I like the writing in the expac (mostly).

That's an interesting idea, I wonder if its marketable, to full up your story instance and do the story for others, and then they pay you to essentially skip all instances 

[Lottie.5370]

14 minutes ago, Gorem.8104 said:

That's an interesting idea, I wonder if its marketable, to full up your story instance and do the story for others, and then they pay you to essentially skip all instances 

 

Tried this with a friend, you need it as your active instance to get credit, so someone would have to literally put you through the entire story.

[Donari.5237]

6 minutes ago, Lottie.5370 said:

 

Tried this with a friend, you need it as your active instance to get credit, so someone would have to literally put you through the entire story.

Huh, I had a guildie report that they did this trick with an alt and it worked.  Maybe your account needs to have completed the story once before alts can get credit via coattails?  I'll be testing it soonish, once I want to get the next weapon started, and if I have to do the whole story a lot ... oh, well.  It'll help me learn the elites and mop up achieves.

[Shiyo.3578]

13 hours ago, Gorem.8104 said:

Its honestly kind amazing just how much chatter happens, I am so glad we can turn it all off and watch something else/do something else while it just plays out forever in game. It'd be great to have a skip option but problem is we'd just be able to skip to the end of EoD and get all the rewards for it, as the entire story is extremely skippable as its mostly just dialogue dumps. Did some training, talk, talk talk talk talk talk talk talk, walk a bit, talk talk talk. Get rewards. Next quest, Talk Talk Talk Talk. 

Just like FF14, the game Anet is desperately trying to copy. Ugh. If I wanted to play that trashcan of a game I'd go play it.

[Lottie.5370]

20 hours ago, Donari.5237 said:

Huh, I had a guildie report that they did this trick with an alt and it worked.  Maybe your account needs to have completed the story once before alts can get credit via coattails?  I'll be testing it soonish, once I want to get the next weapon started, and if I have to do the whole story a lot ... oh, well.  It'll help me learn the elites and mop up achieves.

 

Both my bf and I tried it, we've both completed the story fully on our accounts, went back with each other on an a diff char (one at a time) and neither time got credit. Other people in my guild have also reported that it didn't work for them.

[ilMasa.2546]

The thing is u gotta give the choice.

If people want to listen to 10 minutes of dialogues, let them have it.
BUT
- If someone wants to skipp 10 minutes of TAIMI blabbing AGAIN about HER OPINIONS on what's happing,PLEASE let it HAPPEND.
- If someone wants to get quickly to the next phase in a story mission PLEASE let them be able to skeep the dialogs.

In this expac i actually MUTED all the voices,cos as someone already said i reached the same point where when i see unskippable dialogs in this game,ill just alt+tab and do something else.

Also pls,get rid of the kitten "radio" feature: "tskk...tskk...commander do you read me?copy." IN MY HEARS 24/7.
At least in the past, you could just walk away and not hear them talking. With the radio it's like the TRUMPET BOY MEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpFiLtJ25Ys

Less voice acting and add a kitten skipp button.

Edited March 7, 2022 by ilMasa.2546

[Adonan.7985]

I'm a story person, so I actually listen to the dialogue, at least initially, to get a grasp of what's going on. However, I usually skip dialogue I've heard before, or dialogue I'm not interested in. The first quest (Ankha kidnapping Gorrik) has this whole air of love triangle-jealousy-gossip thing about it, and I wanted more than anything to skip right through that, even when it was new to me. I'm not one for love story stuff.

Also, I wouldn't complain if there was less voice acting. From what I've heard, paying voice actors is expensive, and that money could be put to better use. I've played many games in the past and present that had little to no voice acting. Most of the time, I enjoy those games.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Adonan.7985

[Gehenna.3625]

On 3/6/2022 at 1:27 PM, Lottie.5370 said:

 

If you wanted to finish all the specialisation weapon collections, you would need to play though it 9 times. (Though it may be possible to get someone else to open the last story instance for you and complete that, and it may count).

I looked into this and I see what you mean. Contrary to the previous expansions this time around you need to complete the story for this. So yeah, you're right on that.

On 3/6/2022 at 1:27 PM, Lottie.5370 said:

Personally I really enjoy the dialogue as I'm doing the story, it feels more immersive than just cutscenes like in the personal story, and I like the writing in the expac (mostly).

Sure, but don't you feel that others who don't like them should not get the choice to skip them? I mean most things you can skip but some things you can't. If you want to complete it 9 times to get all the spec. weapons...well, I wouldn't want to hear these convo's over and over again.

[Mrs Lana.2506]

1 hour ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

I mean most things you can skip but some things you can't. If you want to complete it 9 times to get all the spec. weapons...well, I wouldn't want to hear these convo's over and over again.

Looking forward to not being able to skip that last cutscene 5 more times -_-

[Naganooch.6879]

After doing the story for 6 alts this story is getting to be a real long grind and it would certainly be a great benefit to finally have the ability to skip dialogs.

[ProtoGunner.4953]

Believe me... I replay the whole LS2-4 and IBS for the Legendary and also 2nd time EoD and 80% of the time I just wait, wait, and again, wait! It's so super kittening annoying and I really don't know why they don't give us an option to finally skip this. Holy, it's so super duper annoying...

[ProtoGunner.4953]

On 3/7/2022 at 12:51 AM, Shiyo.3578 said:

Just like FF14, the game Anet is desperately trying to copy. Ugh. If I wanted to play that trashcan of a game I'd go play it.

Ironically FF14 A realm reborn (forget the original release) came after the release of GW2...

Edited March 22, 2022 by ProtoGunner.4953

[Tiamat.8254]

46 minutes ago, ProtoGunner.4953 said:

Ironically FF14 A realm reborn (forget the original release) came after the release of GW2...

Not to mention the original FFXIV being such a kitten show they rebooted it 😂

[Shilian.5873]

As a returning player and a necro main, im going to necro this thread to express my absolute frustration and constant eye rolls, please put some story skip into the cash shop or do something, it's just too much to have 70% of the DLC doing noting and listening to NPC blabbing about whatever they blab.

 

No way in the 7 hells I am going to make another character and go through it again, I had full time jobs that were less of a chore.

[Linken.6345]

4 hours ago, Shilian.5873 said:

As a returning player and a necro main, im going to necro this thread to express my absolute frustration and constant eye rolls, please put some story skip into the cash shop or do something, it's just too much to have 70% of the DLC doing noting and listening to NPC blabbing about whatever they blab.

 

No way in the 7 hells I am going to make another character and go through it again, I had full time jobs that were less of a chore.

Do not worry mate you will have years to repeat the story multiple times until the next expansion drops.

[SoftFootpaws.9134]

Skipping dialogue and cutscenes will never happen because this is an MMO.

 

The game isn't running on your computer, its running on a remote server, which severely limits what they can do. For example, every instance a player is in is also a physical game state on the server, and takes up processing power and other resources, so at any time there's thousands of private instances open on the server.

 

The whole reason dialogue and cutscenes exist is so they can manage set pieces, which is something the devs have discussed in the past when talking about why skipping isn't possible. This is because all actions have to be throttled and queued and can't just be done "instantly" like in a single-player game.

 

They also have to be careful not to cause desyncs between multiple players in the same intsance, or other people will start to see an alternate reality than the one you do.

 

The cutscenes you skip in personal story are just client-side stuff, so they're easy to bypass, but they were panned by the community as lacking action and immersion, so they were abandoned.

 

If you don't wish to hear dialogue, go into sound options and move the "Dialog Volume" slider to off.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Hannelore.8153

[squeegee.4320]

On 3/4/2022 at 9:34 AM, figloalds.1274 said:

so far the only way that I know to get the core is doing the story

You can buy Jade Bot cores on the TP.

[Devacore.8759]

Pretty sure ffxiv let's you just auto complete the storyline if you pay money. The main reason I dropped this game multiple times is the story; It's painful.

 

I'll "briefly" attempt to say why:

1: Npcs are only introduced to 'die' heroically later. Once you notice the pattern, npcs become non people characters. 

2: I really dislike plot driven story telling. So when the rookie sacrifices themselves by holding back a horde army, a reasonable person questions how would one rookie do that. The answer is plot armor but I just find that annoying.

3: The story treats npcs like npcs. Everyone is the heroic self-sacrificing brave ultra elite super soldier. Coupled with the higher tier city chatter, it's mind numbing. Side note, beginning human city has hilarious chatter that is just perfect. (anyone know who wrote the random chatter? It's pretty funny)

4: Nothing makes sense. Intro: I doubt a level one character can fight something directly better then the guards. Could have had the main character do something clever? So everyone is fighting at the Y and they discover X plot that they stop. You know, make the character actually earn the title of 'hero of Y'.

(I could go on but to finish)

It's pretty clear that the percentage of people actually liking the story is quite low. You get the funneling effect on forums like this. People who like it, probably would keep playing thus it seems lots of people like it. I think it's quite reasonable to have completed storyline quest have the option to auto complete the next time played. Make it a quality of life buyable option, you would help folks that normally drop the game keep playing.

 

[Fuchslein.8639]

2 hours ago, Hannelore.8153 said:

Skipping dialogue and cutscenes will never happen because this is an MMO.

 

The game isn't running on your computer, its running on a remote server, which severely limits what they can do. For example, every instance a player is in is also a physical game state on the server, and takes up processing power and other resources, so at any time there's thousands of private instances open on the server.

 

The whole reason dialogue and cutscenes exist is so they can manage set pieces, which is something the devs have discussed in the past when talking about why skipping isn't possible. This is because all actions have to be throttled and queued and can't just be done "instantly" like in a single-player game.

 

They also have to be careful not to cause desyncs between multiple players in the same intsance, or other people will start to see an alternate reality than the one you do.

 

The cutscenes you skip in personal story are just client-side stuff, so they're easy to bypass, but they were panned by the community as lacking action and immersion, so they were abandoned.

 

If you don't wish to hear dialogue, go into sound options and move the "Dialog Volume" slider to off.

I doub't this is true. Because what i read over and over again is that dev said the skipping bugged out the story. And even this is just... i hve more Bugs with the later Story whitout a skip-button than i had in the personal Story...

And i know not one person who likes the new way they do the dialogues. It's either totaly annoying because i's in fight scenes where you need to concentrate on, well, the fighting. Or you have minute long walking Simulator with npc who walk slower then the freaking snail i saw outside today. And i know some people who are really, really deep in the story of gw2.

When you enjoy this, okay, but pls don't say THE COMMUNITY found this immersion breaking because in all the years ive been act4ive in this forum i never saw one person say this ...

 

Sorry but these are all just lazy Excuses ...

And when the way to play story is, go away and play something else or/and Mute the Sound this game makes something wrong. Because yeahm that keeps a few players stuck up play time, but most players with an RL and a brain will just stop playing the story and eventuelly the game.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Fuchslein.8639