rune.9572 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Idk, I was kinda hoping we will get an actual follower companion that we could take control over and do stuff with. Instead we just got a gimmick gathering tool with some extra passives. Also was hoping for a third person mode and more ability to free fly, but seems like this was also just a gimmick created for whole 2 story instances. With skins and everything to let us make it look fabulous. Instead we got... yeah, that. What a waste. Edited March 3, 2022 by rune.9572 18 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlemanic.3198 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 overall i like our little jade buddy. the masteries are also improving the use of the jade bot too, making it easier to use and more fun to use as well as giving use unique abilities (like an instant get up from being downed mechanic). hate the battery part though. wild that they limited the scope of the game like that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast.7253 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I think the mastery in general is far more convoluted than it needs to be. The workstation, the different terminals you have to use to trigger some specific functionality, the batteries, the modules, the cores that are character-specific. I'm assuming it was made this way intentionally and I'm sure the reasoning would be "immersion" but to me it just feels like some horrid system Blizzard would implement to micro-manage players' time. I appreciate the creativity and challenge that went into coding this and I'm sure some might find it to be an immersive and fun new experience but the battery requirement is not only causing (if we're discussing immersion) a distaste for me personally. I'm sure things will improve as masteries get completed but I haven't been too keen on getting cores on my other characters yet as they're 40 gold or tied to the story, and the first few acts of the story for me just felt really dull. I think the free core and jade bot tutorial would have been much better served in the first act as soon as you reach Shing Jea, especially given how much jade tech is incorporated into the island. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelissa.8409 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, castlemanic.3198 said: overall i like our little jade buddy. the masteries are also improving the use of the jade bot too, making it easier to use and more fun to use as well as giving use unique abilities (like an instant get up from being downed mechanic). hate the battery part though. wild that they limited the scope of the game like that. At the very least the batteries should Persist their charges through maps/instances (maybe leave story instances out of this because of balancing reasons) Waypoints should persist forever, until you replace them. Maybe it's a bug, but mine disappears frequently (on logging out?) Increase the amount of battery charges hold and gained to 8-4 instead of 4-2. Edited March 4, 2022 by Angelissa.8409 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusanyu.4057 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) I only have too small gripes with the system the first being that we don't have a workbench in the major towns I have alts who are not ready to go to Cantha but should still be able to get a jade buddy but that is a moot point with issue 2 the lack of charges elsewhere in the game make jade bot useless in the other areas of the game. Ironically the Fishing rod just like Jade bot is not a Account tied thing like it is with any other mastery item so no taking your Level ones out for a fishing trip in Metrica Provence. Edited March 4, 2022 by dusanyu.4057 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Angelissa.8409 said: At the very least the batteries should Persist their charges through maps/instances (maybe leave story instances out of this because of balancing reasons) Waypoints should persist forever, until you replace them. Maybe it's a bug, but mine disappears frequently (on logging out?) Increase the amount of battery charges hold and gained to 8-4 instead of 4-2. it vanishes when you switch map so loging out count as you leaving the map yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekoneiric.6817 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Jade bot charges need to accumulate to the wallet like a currency. From there all your characters could share the charges. Having to recharge over and over is horrible. It's be better to farm the charges to the wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast.5416 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Angelissa.8409 said: At the very least the batteries should Persist their charges through maps/instances (maybe leave story instances out of this because of balancing reasons) Waypoints should persist forever, until you replace them. Maybe it's a bug, but mine disappears frequently (on logging out?) Increase the amount of battery charges hold and gained to 8-4 instead of 4-2. The term Waypoints in the name can be a bit misleading, if you expect them to last forever like regular waypoints. Don't look at it as a waypoint, so much as it is a portal. Because it's a 1 time use on a cooldown, it has far more in common with a portal than a waypoint. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokubas.4265 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 It hadn't occurred to me that my alts can't actually use the Jade Bot, despite the Mastery, because of the equipment. That definitely needs to be addressed, as it largely offsets the main point of Mastery to begin with and what I like so much about it. I hadn't even thought of the lack of batteries in zones outside of Cantha. However, when I first got the Jade Bot a Mastery came into my head. As it's not actually in the game, but could solve this problem, I've going to suggest it here: Solar Panels: The Jade Bot slowly gains charge up to its maximum over time. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Healix.5819 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 According to the launch stream, they wanted to make it a companion, but the engineering team didn't like the idea of effectively doubling the amount of players, so it operates as a simple skill effect. Not sure if they were thinking of a combat companion that everyone would need to see, or didn't consider client-side companions like the story NPCs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekoneiric.6817 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Healix.5819 said: According to the launch stream, they wanted to make it a companion, but the engineering team didn't like the idea of effectively doubling the amount of players, so it operates as a simple skill effect. Not sure if they were thinking of a combat companion that everyone would need to see, or didn't consider client-side companions like the story NPCs. They should have made it mutually exclusive to mini-pets. Either jade bot or mini-pet, not both. It could have been classified as a (new class of) mini-pet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune.9572 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Healix.5819 said: According to the launch stream, they wanted to make it a companion, but the engineering team didn't like the idea of effectively doubling the amount of players What if I told you they specifically made a completely new follower AI for Conflux (Conflux! I suspect it was for the bot. I even remember how for a week it would bug out underwater) so they could have added the bot following you in exactly the same way? I mean let's face it, we already have floating follower orbs. Also as seen in WvW maps are fine with 100 people around and the servers only start lagging at 120-150 ish. If it bothers them so much they can make the AI clientside and just display a static following "orb but a bot" for everyone else. Edited March 4, 2022 by rune.9572 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnox.5128 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I think what happened here is that they were so scared of making the bot overpowered that they went a little overboard with limiting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friday.7864 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I mean, it's a pretty novel mastery, I like it. Myb they'll improve it with LW. Not having the same upgrades on other characters is a total pita tho. Wanted to do stuff with a different character and realized I can't do basic stuff on map - changed back to main after 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amhiel.6195 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I don't like Jade Bot at all. The controls are horrible, and it is constantly causing the camera to clip through the floor. Garbage addition. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amhiel.6195 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 1:47 AM, Jokubas.4265 said: It hadn't occurred to me that my alts can't actually use the Jade Bot, despite the Mastery, because of the equipment. That definitely needs to be addressed, as it largely offsets the main point of Mastery to begin with and what I like so much about it. I hadn't even thought of the lack of batteries in zones outside of Cantha. However, when I first got the Jade Bot a Mastery came into my head. As it's not actually in the game, but could solve this problem, I've going to suggest it here: Solar Panels: The Jade Bot slowly gains charge up to its maximum over time. Yep, as soon as I saw it needed batteries, I knew it was trash bot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 11:35 PM, dusanyu.4057 said: I only have too small gripes with the system the first being that we don't have a workbench in the major towns I have alts who are not ready to go to Cantha but should still be able to get a jade buddy but that is a moot point with issue 2 the lack of charges elsewhere in the game make jade bot useless in the other areas of the game. Ironically the Fishing rod just like Jade bot is not a Account tied thing like it is with any other mastery item so no taking your Level ones out for a fishing trip in Metrica Provence. Btw, for 6g and 300 research nodes you can add a workbench to any guild hall for your alts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amhiel.6195 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 1:47 AM, Jokubas.4265 said: It hadn't occurred to me that my alts can't actually use the Jade Bot, despite the Mastery, because of the equipment. That definitely needs to be addressed, as it largely offsets the main point of Mastery to begin with and what I like so much about it. I hadn't even thought of the lack of batteries in zones outside of Cantha. However, when I first got the Jade Bot a Mastery came into my head. As it's not actually in the game, but could solve this problem, I've going to suggest it here: Solar Panels: The Jade Bot slowly gains charge up to its maximum over time. Yep, as soon as I saw it needed batteries, I knew it was trash bot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amhiel.6195 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hannelore.8153 said: Btw, for 6g and 300 research nodes you can add a workbench to any guild hall for your alts. Needing work bench to craft is last century. So sick of having to use one. Should be able to just craft on the go. Upgrade on the go. There is nothing immersive about having to waste time travelling back or looking for a station when games like this, especially GW2 loves to time gate every chance they get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekoneiric.6817 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 16 hours ago, Hannelore.8153 said: Btw, for 6g and 300 research nodes you can add a workbench to any guild hall for your alts. They should also have one for the home instances and all lounges. The whole recharge thing needs to be redone. The implementation of the charging system is horrible. As I commented before, recharging needs to be accumulative into the wallet and farmed much like we do with LWS3 & 4 magic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalLeaf.1307 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 To be honest; I do like my lil guy. Fits right in with my mechanist theme. But I do have to admit, the upgrades are 'okay' at best. Currently using the Trophies one and Glider boost, Glider boost is fun and pretty satisfying to use etc. But straying away from passive upgrades, the actual gameplay of the jades I just haven't cared of at all. The only thing I've actually used the jade bot for is the damage and defence buffs for Dragon's end. Apart from that, literally 0 map interaction. A few Teleports in echovald, that's literally it. I was REALLY hoping for a "Drone" mode for it, where we could just go into it anywhere to scope out the area and take stunning screenshots. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SCREENSHOTS?!?!?!?!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcShriek.5829 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 What is the point of the Jade Bot Workstation? It looks like anything I can do there, I can do on my Jade Bot Tab. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, DarcShriek.5829 said: What is the point of the Jade Bot Workstation? It looks like anything I can do there, I can do on my Jade Bot Tab. Am I missing something? You cant change the two abilities in your hero pannel only the core. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather.6401 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I like the jade bot system. And I like the mastery skill slot. Those are the two things that give me hope of future depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zityz.6089 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 What it should have been is something like the Mini pets, where if there is too many people on the map it turns off. Also have the ability to toggle it on and off. Or, depending on how the engine lets them get away with it. Make it so only you can see your Own bot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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