Accipridae.1589 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) I hate Catalyst at all! First of all wtf a caster is doing with an hammer at all?! Besides,I hated the fight animations as well!Why this hammer became an essential weapon for almost every favorite class of mine? I don't care how much DPS my Ranger can do now,I hate that kitten weapon! I don't like heavy weapons and that's why I have never ever created a warrior but now Arena has given me an hammer and a pistol for my casters;Are you out of your minds?!Caster: Magicians!They need mystical weapons not heavy ones or mechanical ones!Arena has ruined my Elementalist and Necromancer;I don't give a kitten how powerful they have become,I don't feel as a caster anymore!I was complaining about my mesmer because of the pistol and costume inconsistencies due to eye pleasure and aesthetic and now Arena has ruined my all casters with those meaningless weapon choices! Edited March 5, 2022 by Accipridae.1589 10 1 3 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerv.5742 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) I am sorry, but you are aware, that you are not required to use the new weapon choices, correct? As the meaning of the word "weapon choice" implies, they are a choice for you to use, if you wish to engage with a different playstyle. Not more, not less. If you wish, you can still play Catalyst/Harbinger with scepter, staff, dagger or focus (or whatever weapon choices there are) and you would still be able to use the new class functionalities like the new harbinger shroud or catalyst spheres. The weapons are not a requirement for those and the new weapons are also not necessarily better than the old ones. Also, if it is the class functionality you don't like, you don't even need to use Catalyst or Harbinger, isn't that great? When PoF came out, Tempest was still viable alongside Weaver, just like Reaper was viable along side Scourge. The same applies to the new elite specs. If it is for example Tempest you prefer, feel free to still play it. Catalyst is different than Tempest, not "better". No content is gatekept behind a specific elite specialization besides the respective weapons (which shouldn't bother you, seeing how you don't like them anyway). To be quite frank, I don't really see the point in your post as nothing has been forced on you and you are still free to play the way you like it. I hope your angry mood settles soon and you are able to enjoy your day. 🙂 Edited March 5, 2022 by Oerv.5742 16 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.8572 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 No one is forcing you to play the new elite specs. Each profession still has two other specializations to choose from. Keep in mind, however, that many of the "mystical" weapons have already been given to the core scholar professions: e.g., scepter, staff, focus, etc. You may not like heavy weapons, which is a matter of taste and not quality, but new elite specialization weapons were bound to expand to many of these other weapons that are not to your liking. The Bunny Thumper (i.e., hammer ranger) was a popular build in Guild Wars 1. It's honestly more of a surprise that it has taken three expansions before it was introduced into GW2. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejgon.9367 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Am I the only one in here that low-key expected reference to first game of The Elder Scrolls series, based on the title? Aside from that yeah, getting access to new weapon does not mean you have to use it. Also what kind of "mystical weapon" present within the game that Ele didn't already have access to did you expect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keymaster.7362 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) On 3/5/2022 at 4:32 PM, Accipridae.1589 said: I hate Catalyst at all! Good. Don't play him. You still have the options between core ele, weaver or tempest. And all of them can even be easily played with staff or scepter, at least in story or open world. So you can satisfy your desire for a caster Also I personaly play my untamed not with hammer, but with longbow and sword/axe, and i LOVE it. The E-Specs aren't designed to please all a single player, but to give a huge variety, so everyone can choose what he loves the most. I personaly love the catalyst on my huge norn. The hammer suits him way better than on of the older weapons ever could. Edited March 27, 2022 by Keymaster.7362 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H.6142 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 What is a hammer but a staff with a head? Chill. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 kitten All the caster classes already use scepter, staff, and focus. What more do you want? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accipridae.1589 Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) On 3/10/2022 at 5:07 AM, AliamRationem.5172 said: kitten All the caster classes already use scepter, staff, and focus. What more do you want? On 3/5/2022 at 7:05 PM, Keymaster.7362 said: Good. Don't play him. You still have the options between core ele, weaver or tempest. And all of them can even be easily played with staff or scepter, at least in story or open world. So you can satisfy your desire for a caster Also I personaly play my untamed not with hammer, but with longbow and sword/axe, and i LOVE it. The E-Specs aren't designed to please all a single player, but to give a huge variety, so everyone can choose what he loves the most. I personaly love the catalyst on my huge, muscular norn. The hammer suits him way better than on of the older weapons ever could. If I won't be able to benefit or having fun with a new specialization with my favorite (Main) char, what is the point of continue with older ones? I lost my taste for elementalist because of weapon choice for the new specialization. That makes me angry! Yes I can play with the older specs but it won't change the fact that I lost a spec because some in the office have decided that hammer would be perfect for a caster! This absurdity makes me frustrated! Edited March 26, 2022 by Accipridae.1589 1 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripLight.7692 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Accipridae.1589 said: Yes I can play with the older specs but it won't change the fact that I lost a spec because some in the office have decided that hammer would be perfect for a caster! No it doesn't, if you don't want to play it, you aren't losing anything, because you aren't willing to try it. I think you are more mad that GW2 is giving caster classes access to non-traditional caster weapons. Ele now has weapon swap, whats stopping you from running one slot hammer/sword/warhorn and the other staff/scepter/dagger? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) None of this thread makes sense. Pointy wizard hats and grey beard casters is your grandpa's MMO. Edited March 26, 2022 by Obtena.7952 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalLeaf.1307 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 You used 'I ...' 9 times. Have you ever heard of subjectivity lmao. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Accipridae.1589 said: If I won't be able to benefit or having fun with a new specialization with my favorite (Main) char, what is the point of continue with older ones? I lost my taste for elementalist because of weapon choice for the new specialization. That makes me angry! Yes I can play with the older specs but it won't change the fact that I lost a spec because some in the office have decided that hammer would be perfect for a caster! This absurdity makes me frustrated! So that wasn't a complaint when ele got a sword in PoF becaaaaause....? Play with the specs you like, if you want a "new ranged eod caster", try virtuoso I guess. I don't get the question "If I won't be able to benefit or having fun with a new specialization with my favorite (Main) char, what is the point of continue with older ones?". New especs don't influence the old ones, so you can enjoy them exactly the same way you did earlier. Edited March 26, 2022 by Sobx.1758 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warherox.7943 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 10:54 AM, Genesis.8572 said: No one is forcing you to play the new elite specs. Each profession still has two other specializations to choose from. Keep in mind, however, that many of the "mystical" weapons have already been given to the core scholar professions: e.g., scepter, staff, focus, etc. You may not like heavy weapons, which is a matter of taste and not quality, but new elite specialization weapons were bound to expand to many of these other weapons that are not to your liking. The Bunny Thumper (i.e., hammer ranger) was a popular build in Guild Wars 1. It's honestly more of a surprise that it has taken three expansions before it was introduced into GW2. The core professions need help so they are viable in all game modes without buffing the elite specs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, warherox.7943 said: The core professions need help so they are viable in all game modes without buffing the elite specs. And you would achive that how? since all elite specs can use any of the core lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 I get your point, but if you don't like Catalyst/Hammer, why don't you play core ele / Tempest / Weaver with staff or scepter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Pfft, like many have said, you don't have to use hammer if you dont want to. And who are you to say casters are ruined just because it doesn't fit your stereotypical wizard? That what i like about GW2, doing it own thing than being like other hundred fantasy and lack imagination. This might shock you but i'm hoping caster classes will get rifle/pistol on next expac. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) On 3/5/2022 at 4:32 PM, Accipridae.1589 said: I don't care how much DPS my Ranger can do now The answer to that would be: almost none, sadly. 😆 I agree that the new elite specs are a major disappointments. Edited March 27, 2022 by Ashantara.8731 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warherox.7943 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Linken.6345 said: And you would achive that how? since all elite specs can use any of the core lines. One way would be making the core profession mechanic traitline the core "elite spec", like Guardian's Virtues line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, warherox.7943 said: One way would be making the core profession mechanic traitline the core "elite spec", like Guardian's Virtues line. And you lock that away how from the elite specs? And how about the guardians that feel mantras should be the elite spec line. Or how about spirit weapons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy.2951 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 They added necromancer with a greatsword (melee weapon) and it is probably my favourite specialization, however maybe on an ele idk. Anyway they need to add more weapons melee/ranged for different classes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronometria.3708 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Elementalist has so many close range weapon options now that it may as well be a monk type class. Meanwhile, rifle continues to be ignored as a weapon option for some reason. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus.6415 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 16 hours ago, Accipridae.1589 said: If I won't be able to benefit or having fun with a new specialization with my favorite (Main) char, what is the point of continue with older ones? I lost my taste for elementalist because of weapon choice for the new specialization. That makes me angry! Yes I can play with the older specs but it won't change the fact that I lost a spec because some in the office have decided that hammer would be perfect for a caster! This absurdity makes me frustrated! The weapon choice is the least problem Elementalists have right now. I still like (or trying to continue liking) Catalyst, but i have to say, when I heard about Ele getting a hammer, i imangined so many amazing elemental abilities. You should be able to summon cataclysmic forces with an element empowered hammer, but unfortunately the devs went with the most uninspired, reused weapons skills you could think of. Shoot projectile there, rotate projectile here, hit the ground to splash water, hit the ground for small fire, hit the ground for earth rubble... I wanted to catch my enemies in unescapable whirlpools, crush down on them with a Tsunami behind me, rip the earth open and bury my foes under it.. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega.6801 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said: None of this thread makes sense. Pointy wizard hats and grey beard casters is your grandpa's MMO. This. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 What weapon would you have seen added for Catalyst? I mean, werent all of the classic caster weapons already available to ele? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra.9506 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Some how I also agree with OP... Catalyst really didn't feel like caster class if they use bow/longbow weapon would fit them better. And dunno all range weapons they have is terrible IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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