Glyph of Empowerment

[Talindra.4958]

Anet, please also change glphy of empowerment Number of Targets instead of 5 to 10. otherwise..... likely that two druids still remain meta

[musu.9205]

or just rework it .it never makes sense for a healer build with that much dmg buff to begin with .

[Feanor.2358]

@Talindra.4958 said:Anet, please also change glphy of empowerment Number of Targets instead of 5 to 10. otherwise..... likely that two druids still remain meta

For a ~3.5% dps increase? I seriously doubt it.

[maxwelgm.4315]

Group wide protection and group wide flat % of increased damage, why would you take druid away from your party? Most druids didn't even botter stacking GotL, spirits are the main source of buffs here, as well as Spotter taking away the need for Assassin trinkets.

[savacli.8172]

Previous to yesterday's patch you took two druids to cover spirits and Spotter uptime per their own sub, and two druids together would maintain 5 stack of GoTL. Empowerment was just icing on the cake for the extra damage but with so many top ranking builds being condi empowerment glyph wasn't getting too much mileage. It's the same issue as Warrior's Empower Allies. The extra power is nice, but not every build will make full use of it.

With the new patch GoTL uptime is no longer a thing since all you do is Might stack now which is easily handled by a single druid. Same goes for Spirits. The second sub will want to run a SoulBeast for Spotter, but otherwise losing Empowerment Glyph is the least concern. On top of that, what's the second Druid supposed to bring? Spirits aren't needed, GotL uptime is a waste, and their damage potential even with traps thrown in is about half of what a Soulbeast would do. I'd much rather take the increased damage from a Soulbeast than bring a secondary druid for just empowerment alone.

[Talindra.4958]

Any increase in dps its an advantage. Players will push for that to max group dps. Anet wanted to nerf druid to provide room for other profession then the buff especially to do with increase overall dps from druid (or any prof) should affect 10 ppl not 5.

[Zlater.6789]

Many druids were dropping glyph of empowerment and spotter for sharpening stones and sharpened edges before the patch in some comps. This was just because the group dps gain of empowerment and spotter was less than the personal dps gain of sharpened edges and sharpening stones.So this I imagine will affect the meta comp minimally, however GoTL from verdant etching would be more useful now than before because we were often overlapping gotl xD

[lunaeclipse.6843]

@Feanor.2358 said:

@Talindra.4958 said:Anet, please also change glphy of empowerment Number of Targets instead of 5 to 10. otherwise..... likely that two druids still remain meta

For a ~3.5% dps increase? I seriously doubt it.

This really. The dps increase from this utility is very small and doesn't justify 10 targets.

I'd bet spotter would have a higher chance of becoming 10 target than GoE.

[Edu.6984]

Make the gliph give might and fury instead of a a dmg % increase.

[zealex.9410]

@Talindra.4958 said:Anet, please also change glphy of empowerment Number of Targets instead of 5 to 10. otherwise..... likely that two druids still remain meta

OBV IT WONT (oops caps) the dps you will get from a another dmg dealing class is way higher than the dps a druid will provide only from glyph.

[Yasi.9065]

@xDudisx.5914 said:Make the gliph give might and fury instead of a a dmg % increase.

Actually, the real reason to take 2 druids still is cc and... fury.Support renegade cant provide fury, and alacrity is covered by chronos anyway. For AP you can take a dps renegade.Support herald can provide fury, but not as much dps or cc as druid. Still, its the 1st runner up if you dont want to run 2 druids.Support tempest can only provide fury if he gets fury from somewhere else, has no really useful unique buff, less cc and less dps than druid, thanks to air overload nerfs.Support weaver cant bring anything not already covered, except heals.

So really, the problem isnt GoE. The problem is that there's so few sources of aoe fury. And that the new DPS builds have just so few cc.

If they would for example, change warhorn 4 on tempest to always give fury (not just double it back) or change the seriously annoying regen trait on chronos into a fury trait... That would be changes that actually really would help.

[Zlater.6789]

@Yasi.9065 said:

@xDudisx.5914 said:Make the gliph give might and fury instead of a a dmg % increase.

Actually, the real reason to take 2 druids still is cc and... fury.Support renegade cant provide fury, and alacrity is covered by chronos anyway. For AP you can take a dps renegade.Support herald can provide fury, but not as much dps or cc as druid. Still, its the 1st runner up if you dont want to run 2 druids.Support tempest can only provide fury if he gets fury from somewhere else, has no really useful unique buff, less cc and less dps than druid, thanks to air overload nerfs.Support weaver cant bring anything not already covered, except heals.

So really, the problem isnt GoE. The problem is that there's so few sources of aoe fury. And that the new DPS builds have just so few cc.

If they would for example, change warhorn 4 on tempest to always give fury (not just double it back) or change the seriously annoying regen trait on chronos into a fury trait... That would be changes that actually really would help.Well actually chronos can bring solo fury, either at the cost of dps by swapping sword for torch, or at the cost of distortion on signet use by swapping domination for dueling.

[Yasi.9065]

Sword for torch illu I thought about, but its really a rather close thing... dueling? you mean the < 75% minor trait? Id rather not try that in pugs.