Stallic.2397 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 "Last up for mesmer, we have a big cooldown reduction to Signet of Humility. This is another change we'll be keeping a close eye on to see if the cooldown is a bit too low or if the effect duration needs to be adjusted, but we do want to see players getting transformed into moas on a more regular basis. Signet of Humility: Reduced cooldown from 180 seconds to 90 seconds in PvP and Wv W." Lol, step it up Mesmers! Anet wants more Moas 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pati.2438 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Im glat to see this step. Realy miss the bunkerish moa/Portal days xd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrownyClown.8402 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Me thinks im not going to enjoy 1v1 vs mesmer 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) THIEVES: after years of abusing every mesmer on sight with little to no retaliation possible, they get the most incredibly powerful facetanking transformation with specter; no plasma, no blocks, no blinds, no invulns, no evades, just pure damage absorption there's no way you can get through that shroudMESMERS: get half the CD on the most powerful anti-transformation skill, counterable only by ALL THE THINGS SPECTERS LACK Now isn't that is the 180IQ move 💗 Edited March 29, 2022 by Terrorhuz.4695 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I'm just glad they finally buffed something on Mesmer that isn't Mirage. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Terrorhuz.4695 said: THIEVES: after years of abusing every mesmer on sight with little to no retaliation possible, they get the most incredibly powerful facetanking transformation with specter; no plasma, no blocks, no blinds, no invulns, no evades, just pure damage absorption there's no way you can get through that shroudMESMERS: get half the CD on the most powerful anti-transformation skill, counterable only by ALL THE THINGS SPECTERS LACK Now isn't that is the 180IQ move 💗 You uh... You're drooling there sir. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik.3401 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) The cd on this one was pretty high so I can see the reasoning for the reduction. It is quite easy to counter too so even 50% cd cut might be ok. Just can’t help but see it as an easy way to buff Mesmer without too much thought. Just slap low cd Moa so virtuoso can have a shot at killing something. Hopefully they revisit the weapons and traits to greater extent in the big patch. Edited March 29, 2022 by Mik.3401 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Don't you mean you want to see moar moas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrownyClown.8402 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 The moa change has pretty big implications in coordinated games where you can just shut out a support every 90s. 6s may be too large of a window though. Makes it 4s and I could justify it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmBotXD.1430 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I play mesmer and I like moa but after you get couple of giggles out of the skill you will quickly realize how degenerate the skill actually is. Its a 6s of hard CC that cant be broken out of. The duration might need to go down to 5s, just to make it more counter-playable. Remember, it can still be yeeted from stealth. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, FarmBotXD.1430 said: I play mesmer and I like moa but after you get couple of giggles out of the skill you will quickly realize how degenerate the skill actually is. Its a 6s of hard CC that cant be broken out of. The duration might need to go down to 5s, just to make it more counter-playable. Remember, it can still be yeeted from stealth. I started playing arenas without reading the patchnotes. Haven't met a mesmer with elite signet in years, so I couldn't be bothered to watch for the elite animation. Got moa-d. Too bad for the enemy, he was already below 10% health. My opponent got pecked to death. I wasn't able to moa-kill anyone in almost a decade, it's a truely unique experience. Moa is not a hard CC, it's a transformation. You still have some agency while transformed, and thats what makes it fun. (and the fact that it memes on everything that has a self-transform or shroud) 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, FarmBotXD.1430 said: I play mesmer and I like moa but after you get couple of giggles out of the skill you will quickly realize how degenerate the skill actually is. Its a 6s of hard CC that cant be broken out of. The duration might need to go down to 5s, just to make it more counter-playable. Remember, it can still be yeeted from stealth. It's not really hard CC though, just press skill 5, dodge, then skill 2 and you're fine 90% of the time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Bazsi.2734 said: I started playing arenas without reading the patchnotes. Haven't met a mesmer with elite signet in years, so I couldn't be bothered to watch for the elite animation. Got moa-d. Too bad for the enemy, he was already below 10% health. My opponent got pecked to death. I wasn't able to moa-kill anyone in almost a decade, it's a truely unique experience. Moa is not a hard CC, it's a transformation. You still have some agency while transformed, and thats what makes it fun. (and the fact that it memes on everything that has a self-transform or shroud) When the buff backfires on anet, i wish they do not just nerf the cd again, it would be really funny if they just buff moa to a point that it counters the mesmer if they misuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, agrippastrilemma.8741 said: It's not really hard CC though, just press skill 5, dodge, then skill 2 and you're fine 90% of the time. This 12 hours ago, Bazsi.2734 said: IYou still have some agency while transformed, and thats what makes it fun. (and the fact that it memes on everything that has a self-transform or shroud) It -is- indeed fun and I always enjoy getting moa'd despite my general pessimism toward mesmer and its derivatives. They need to make more balance changes that promote fun. 90 seconds is fine to [bird up] one person. Adjust portal next. Edited March 30, 2022 by Azure The Heartless.3261 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Step 1: Try to find a player that still plays mesmer. Step 2: Get them to moa you repeatedly and not attack so you can familiarise yourself with the transform. Step 3: Wake up, no-one still plays mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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