Shieldbash.5304 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 How long must we wait to see balance? How long are these favored classes to be Over Powered? Rangers were nerfed Season 1 8 years ago, yet these two godamned classes are allowed to have elite status for almost a decade? I want my money back! 11 1 2 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Guardian? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Yeah, I too remember dh being meta all of HoT. And druid being bottom tier. Oh wait 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 This has to be the most complicated and longwinded way of saying "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" I've read in a good while. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezekan.2671 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Well, I don't remember a time where Necro and Guardian were not meta, so yeah. Maybe very early years that I was not playing? But pretty sure core guardian and necro have always been good. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, Nezekan.2671 said: Well, I don't remember a time where Necro and Guardian were not meta, so yeah. Maybe very early years that I was not playing? But pretty sure core guardian and necro have always been good. And about all of HoT. Dh never had a place in the competitive scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezekan.2671 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Math.5123 said: And about all of HoT. Dh never had a place in the competitive scene. Hmm, IDK. in WvW DH always seemed good enough. It has good access to unblockable and ground effects to be useable in zergs, and it was good in pvp for a while, until it was nerfed. But it made a come back after utilization of trapper runes. Trapper DH is still very good in pvp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Pretty sure rev is the only class that has been meta in every major tournament since 2015, when it came out Edited March 31, 2022 by agrippastrilemma.8741 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Math.5123 said: Yeah, I too remember dh being meta all of HoT. And druid being bottom tier. Oh wait I member that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Feel like people got some trauma from PoF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Nezekan.2671 said: Hmm, IDK. in WvW DH always seemed good enough. It has good access to unblockable and ground effects to be useable in zergs, and it was good in pvp for a while, until it was nerfed. But it made a come back after utilization of trapper runes. Trapper DH is still very good in pvp. This is the pvp forum. And the only dh build that has ever been good competitively is the burn version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzbugs.1236 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I just played a ranked game, my entire team got fed at mid over and over again by a DH with traps. That DH carried the entire game for their team. And at the end had all the top stats. DH is really oppressive when in the right hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazze.9870 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Math.5123 said: Yeah, I too remember dh being meta all of HoT. And druid being bottom tier. Oh wait Good thing they keep it as is and don't even mention druid anymore when addressing support builds. Important to make core warrior support up to par though. What is druid? Might as well rename it to Ancient Seeds because that's about the only thing keeping it alive. None of that "pure healer" thing they advertised it as. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 hours ago, agrippastrilemma.8741 said: Pretty sure rev is the only class that has been meta in every major tournament since 2015, when it came out It was pretty dead the first few months of PoF but that was only time it wasn't competitive. Thief on other hand only fell out during early HoT including all of core. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ArthurDent.9538 said: It was pretty dead the first few months of PoF but that was only time it wasn't competitive. Thief on other hand only fell out during early HoT including all of core. Which major tournament was that though? Some ToL? Edited March 31, 2022 by agrippastrilemma.8741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, agrippastrilemma.8741 said: Which major tournament was that though? Some ToL? First several MAT's of new expansion don't count? If not, weird metric to consider since special tourneys are so rare and sporadic and often completely miss entire metas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Guardian? Do we even play the same game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valisha.8650 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Bazsi.2734 said: This has to be the most complicated and longwinded way of saying "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" I've read in a good while. Except everything he said is true. Guardian and necro are overpowered since i remember, meanwhile rangers got... Untamed. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrippastrilemma.8741 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArthurDent.9538 said: First several MAT's of new expansion don't count? If not, weird metric to consider since special tourneys are so rare and sporadic and often completely miss entire metas. Yeah I didn't count mATs in my statement. But yeah rev got kitten by Renegade being garb for a time. Edited March 31, 2022 by agrippastrilemma.8741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, Valisha.8650 said: Except everything he said is true. Guardian and necro are overpowered since i remember, meanwhile rangers got... Untamed. "Since I remember"... so you don't. I suspect it's because you can't, saying rangers only got untamed suggests to me that you started playing the game after druid got toned down. Because it was an absolute monster for years. So as someone who's here since the betas: OP-s statement is just obectively false. Necro was out of the meta several times, guardian was barely holding on for several metas aswell. So OP could have made a valid complaint, but instead he(yes I'm assuming) went and overexaggerated it into a falsehood. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Im honestly still trying to understand why OP said Guard is OP. We have Core shout that only works in very organized teams We have a Trapper DH that is a gimmick and doesn't work past gold We have Willbender and Firebrand that... Well we don't have Willbender and Firebrand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwarts Zebra.8597 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, KeoLegend.5132 said: Im honestly still trying to understand why OP said Guard is OP. Combination of PvE-bias and reddit/forums hivemind. Best let this thread die out, no point entangling yourself in the delusions of random gold players 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainger.3570 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 18 hours ago, Shieldbash.5304 said: 8 years ago GDE VI BILY 8 LET!!! 🙈🙉🙊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Valisha.8650 said: Except everything he said is true. Guardian and necro are overpowered since i remember, meanwhile rangers got... Untamed. I'd take untamed over willbender 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Found the guy who watches a dh drop 5 traps on point and then walks in anyways with his cd's used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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