Deadeye just as other specs is outdated

[AJVO.2846]

Hello, I've played game since a while ago and i'do like to express myself here if no problem jeje.

Tbh reason i remained in game was simply because of Deadeye's release years ago with the PoF expansion, couldn't find myself to enjoy game with any other class and believe me i tried but couldn't find any joy... Guess i like how simple and basic DE is on it's own way? Even tho i knew it sucked for most stuff because yeah, i got kicked many times from PvE groups simply because of playing  as DE, fractals, dungeons, etc. Got to the point i went to solo my own fractals just to open group at last boss and get kicked from my own group 😛 Anyways, that's not the point lmao.

Thanks to DE i got to introduce myself to other modes, PvP which i suck to this day and WvW which i fell in love with instantly even tho at the very start i sucked so bad too (Killing myself by shooting  reflective shields) It was fun tho, to chill and learn even sometimes get pissed, but still getting more into it and then i realized found my home in game. DE was fast and deadly as it's name and traits describe it to be and for a while i had so much fun with it doing WvW and sometimes other stuff.

This time with the chance to prove i wasn't that bad even for a spec that wasn't meant for PvE but mostly for PvP and WvW modes, yeah it was a killing machine and even fighting against them was fun, i would end up laughing when someone was fast enough or i was slow enough to give them the chance and activate a reflective and boom, one shot myself and done, these were the days....

Unlike now that u will find players shielding theirselves for almost all the fight, full of boons, shooting you from who knows how far and also using stealth and adding traps while by your range you cannot reach them and shadowstepping to them. It's even more risky since you gonna get on their traps while they running away and shooting you all from their safety spot, yeah i'm speaking about rangers in general and DH, the ones i find in my opinion the favorite specs from game and no, not mentioning necro, engis, warriors because they don't have free stealth plus their skills.

Anyways, going back to my point DE was fun to play and everything was perfect till that day the horrible balance patch that changed the whole meta to a full condi, killing power dps meta almost if not completly from game... and not only that but also getting nerfs on my own spec by itself which i found normal at that point, just took me time getting used to it, to the reveal everytime i use my skill 1 on stealth , the lack of initiative when using my skills since they increased the initiative spend each time i would use them, etc, etc All that and yet i got used to it, didn't give up on the spec, somehow still found it fun to play even tho i had to change alot my build.

At that point i never considered on switching from full berserk gear to marauder pieces but i had to or else i wouldn't be able to at least stand a fight. I get it, the game has to grow, meta has to change, we must learn to chill and get use to the changes and so i did, even tho everytime i'do get a mail with important upcoming changes for wvw i would get worried. But why?? Well the reason is simple, the times i've check forums and read about specs and player's complaints i would find out they were usually speaking about nerfing the same specs, ELEMENTALIST IS TOO OP!! IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED!! or I DON'T LIKE HOW OP MESMERS ARE, THEY GOT STEALTH, THEY DO DAMAGE! NERF THEM NOW!! to the point these players from our community got a spec like chronomancer killed, i'm sure many agree to that and so my own spec got through the same. I don't like to start bs but these same players asking to nerf this, nerf that were and are still the ones asking for more buffs to their already not op, but still strong classes and specs. Yeah, i'm speaking about the most played classes and that includes the already nerfed warrior. Don't get me wrong, I know nothing about other classes personally, but i've experienced the fights againt each like the time i saw an elementalist (Don't remember if elite spec) fighting 3 folks and winning the fight in a very kitten why, yeah it seems op but the dude ofc had to master all that , i mean, isn't ele like playing a piano? haha

Back to the point. I found last balance patch to be very disappointing as many people did with the changes and at some point insulting ( funny ik :P) for example seeing the new rifle skill on engineers to basically be skill 3 from Deadeye with a plus thanks to it's traits and bot if playing Mech. I get it, new expansion, new specs have to be strong to make expansion look cool and i don't mind that, it's cool rifle getting more popular actually so keep going, not asking for a nerf to this or that, not asking to instantly add a buff on damage, give full quickness to my spec and perma stealth while having a full time protective shield. All i ask is for it to be fair, to not forget about the old specs, to not fully kill old specs as it has happened already.

Stealth has always been part of thieves and mesmers identity and it's slowly taking it from it, keep in mind thieves don't have a 5-10seconds cd shield, reflectives, invulnerability like other specs do now plus the stealth from trapper rune and super speed. Stealth for us was for offensive yeah, but also it was our "shield" even tho we would get hit still by skills and attacks while on stealth, but it was our barrier, our way to repositioning while on a fight. These changes to Shadow arts were meant for Specter and only a few were good for Deadeye in my opinion, but i've got all stealth skills on i have lost more than half my stealth. Silent Scope only has 1 second stealth when dodge on rifle, that cannot even be considered stealth, even if it was meant to do our stealth shot, they see were we going, they will know we are about to shot it all and so shields here, reflectives, etc. Tbh DE was an already very predictable spec to fight against but now me personally i find it awful and this time i just can't find a way.

So again i'm repeating, not asking to nerf other specs that i personally find op and as easy or way easier and safer to play, no no i am asking to fix what has no attention since a while ago because certainly some old specs are outdated and no matter how much you buff or nerf them it's not gonna fix the problem. I'do like to see the less played classes to be as op as they were on it's prime days... Would be nice to see Deadeye and power builds in general once again alive, i guess rifle Mech is a starting?? I hope so

 

 

By the way, i am not pretending to insult anybody by sharing my thoughts jeje I hope whoever reads it can understand it's my way to express and not blaming on anybody well mabe a little on those who cried till they got most specs didn't like nerfed 😛 Guess that makes me a cryer now too... Jajaja

 

Thanks to Grand Marshal.4098 for the edit lmao

Edited July 2, 2022 by lmao.7816
To not get anybody offended by the share of my thoughts about game.

[Lithril Ashwalker.6230]

Omg! please use formatting, hurts the eyes, didn't read without it

[Grand Marshal.4098]

I'll do it cause I want thieves to owe a warrior something 😎

I'll just split it in paragraphs frfr

 

Hello, I've played game since a while ago and i'do like to express myself here if no problem jeje.

Tbh reason i remained in game was simply because of Deadeye's release years ago with the PoF expansion, couldn't find myself to enjoy game with any other class and believe me i tried but couldn't find any joy... Guess i like how simple and basic DE is on it's own way? Even tho i knew it sucked for most stuff because yeah, i got kicked many times from PvE groups simply because of playing  as DE, fractals, dungeons, etc. Got to the point i went to solo my own fractals just to open group at last boss and get kicked from my own group 😛 Anyways, that's not the point lmao.

Thanks to DE i got to introduce myself to other modes, PvP which i suck to this day and WvW which i fell in love with instantly even tho at the very start i sucked so bad too (Killing myself by shooting  reflective shields) It was fun tho, to chill and learn even sometimes get pissed, but still getting more into it and then i realized found my home in game. DE was fast and deadly as it's name and traits describe it to be and for a while i had so much fun with it doing WvW and sometimes other stuff.

This time with the chance to prove i wasn't that bad even for a spec that wasn't meant for PvE but mostly for PvP and WvW modes, yeah it was a killing machine and even fighting against them was fun, i would end up laughing when someone was fast enough or i was slow enough to give them the chance and activate a reflective and boom, one shot myself and done, these were the days....

Unlike now that u will find players shielding theirselves for almost all the fight, full of boons, shooting you from who knows how far and also using stealth and adding traps while by your range you cannot reach them and shadowstepping to them. It's even more risky since you gonna get on their traps while they running away and shooting you all from their safety spot, yeah i'm speaking about rangers in general and DH, the ones i find in my opinion the favorite specs from game and no, not mentioning necro, engis, warriors because they don't have free stealth plus their skills.

Anyways, going back to my point DE was fun to play and everything was perfect till that day the horrible balance patch that changed the whole meta to a full condi, killing power dps meta almost if not completly from game... and not only that but also getting nerfs on my own spec by itself which i found normal at that point, just took me time getting used to it, to the reveal everytime i use my skill 1 on stealth , the lack of initiative when using my skills since they increased the initiative spend each time i would use them, etc, etc All that and yet i got used to it, didn't give up on the spec, somehow still found it fun to play even tho i had to change alot my build.

At that point i never considered on switching from full berserk gear to marauder pieces but i had to or else i wouldn't be able to at least stand a fight. I get it, the game has to grow, meta has to change, we must learn to chill and get use to the changes and so i did, even tho everytime i'do get a mail with important upcoming changes for wvw i would get worried. But why?? Well the reason is simple, the times i've check forums and read about specs and player's complaints i would find out they were usually speaking about nerfing the same specs, ELEMENTALIST IS TOO OP!! IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED!! or I DON'T LIKE HOW OP MESMERS ARE, THEY GOT STEALTH, THEY DO DAMAGE! NERF THEM NOW!! to the point these players from our community got a spec like chronomancer killed, i'm sure many agree to that and so my own spec got through the same. I don't like to start bs but these same players asking to nerf this, nerf that were and are still the ones asking for more buffs to their already not op, but still strong classes and specs. Yeah, i'm speaking about the most played classes and that includes the already nerfed warrior. Don't get me wrong, I know nothing about other classes personally, but i've experienced the fights againt each like the time i saw an elementalist (Don't remember if elite spec) fighting 3 folks and winning the fight in a very kitten why, yeah it seems op but the dude ofc had to master all that , i mean, isn't ele like playing a piano? haha

Back to the point. I found last balance patch to be very disappointing as many people did with the changes and at some point insulting ( funny ik :P) for example seeing the new rifle skill on engineers to basically be skill 3 from Deadeye with a plus thanks to it's traits and bot if playing Mech. I get it, new expansion, new specs have to be strong to make expansion look cool and i don't mind that, it's cool rifle getting more popular actually so keep going, not asking for a nerf to this or that, not asking to instantly add a buff on damage, give full quickness to my spec and perma stealth while having a full time protective shield. All i ask is for it to be fair, to not forget about the old specs, to not fully kill old specs as it has happened already.

Stealth has always been part of thieves and mesmers identity and it's slowly taking it from it, keep in mind thieves don't have a 5-10seconds cd shield, reflectives, invulnerability like other specs do now plus the stealth from trapper rune and super speed. Stealth for us was for offensive yeah, but also it was our "shield" even tho we would get hit still by skills and attacks while on stealth, but it was our barrier, our way to repositioning while on a fight. These changes to Shadow arts were meant for Specter and only a few were good for Deadeye in my opinion, but i've got all stealth skills on i have lost more than half my stealth. Silent Scope only has 1 second stealth when dodge on rifle, that cannot even be considered stealth, even if it was meant to do our stealth shot, they see were we going, they will know we are about to shot it all and so shields here, reflectives, etc. Tbh DE was an already very predictable spec to fight against but now me personally i find it awful and this time i just can't find a way.

So again i'm repeating, not asking to nerf other specs that i personally find op and as easy or way easier and safer to play, no no i am asking to fix what has no attention since a while ago because certainly some old specs are outdated and no matter how much you buff or nerf them it's not gonna fix the problem. I'do like to see the less played classes to be as op as they were on it's prime days... Would be nice to see Deadeye and power builds in general once again alive, i guess rifle Mech is a starting?? I hope so

By the way, i am not pretending to insult anybody by sharing my thoughts jeje I hope whoever reads it can understand it's my way to express and not blaming on anybody well mabe a little on those who cried till they got most specs didn't like nerfed 😛 Guess that makes me a cryer now too... Jajaja

 

 

 

[AJVO.2846]

6 hours ago, Grand Marshal.4098 said:

I'll do it cause I want thieves to owe a warrior something 😎

I'll just split it in paragraphs frfr

 

Hello, I've played game since a while ago and i'do like to express myself here if no problem jeje.

Tbh reason i remained in game was simply because of Deadeye's release years ago with the PoF expansion, couldn't find myself to enjoy game with any other class and believe me i tried but couldn't find any joy... Guess i like how simple and basic DE is on it's own way? Even tho i knew it sucked for most stuff because yeah, i got kicked many times from PvE groups simply because of playing  as DE, fractals, dungeons, etc. Got to the point i went to solo my own fractals just to open group at last boss and get kicked from my own group 😛 Anyways, that's not the point lmao.

Thanks to DE i got to introduce myself to other modes, PvP which i suck to this day and WvW which i fell in love with instantly even tho at the very start i sucked so bad too (Killing myself by shooting  reflective shields) It was fun tho, to chill and learn even sometimes get pissed, but still getting more into it and then i realized found my home in game. DE was fast and deadly as it's name and traits describe it to be and for a while i had so much fun with it doing WvW and sometimes other stuff.

This time with the chance to prove i wasn't that bad even for a spec that wasn't meant for PvE but mostly for PvP and WvW modes, yeah it was a killing machine and even fighting against them was fun, i would end up laughing when someone was fast enough or i was slow enough to give them the chance and activate a reflective and boom, one shot myself and done, these were the days....

Unlike now that u will find players shielding theirselves for almost all the fight, full of boons, shooting you from who knows how far and also using stealth and adding traps while by your range you cannot reach them and shadowstepping to them. It's even more risky since you gonna get on their traps while they running away and shooting you all from their safety spot, yeah i'm speaking about rangers in general and DH, the ones i find in my opinion the favorite specs from game and no, not mentioning necro, engis, warriors because they don't have free stealth plus their skills.

Anyways, going back to my point DE was fun to play and everything was perfect till that day the horrible balance patch that changed the whole meta to a full condi, killing power dps meta almost if not completly from game... and not only that but also getting nerfs on my own spec by itself which i found normal at that point, just took me time getting used to it, to the reveal everytime i use my skill 1 on stealth , the lack of initiative when using my skills since they increased the initiative spend each time i would use them, etc, etc All that and yet i got used to it, didn't give up on the spec, somehow still found it fun to play even tho i had to change alot my build.

At that point i never considered on switching from full berserk gear to marauder pieces but i had to or else i wouldn't be able to at least stand a fight. I get it, the game has to grow, meta has to change, we must learn to chill and get use to the changes and so i did, even tho everytime i'do get a mail with important upcoming changes for wvw i would get worried. But why?? Well the reason is simple, the times i've check forums and read about specs and player's complaints i would find out they were usually speaking about nerfing the same specs, ELEMENTALIST IS TOO OP!! IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED!! or I DON'T LIKE HOW OP MESMERS ARE, THEY GOT STEALTH, THEY DO DAMAGE! NERF THEM NOW!! to the point these players from our community got a spec like chronomancer killed, i'm sure many agree to that and so my own spec got through the same. I don't like to start bs but these same players asking to nerf this, nerf that were and are still the ones asking for more buffs to their already not op, but still strong classes and specs. Yeah, i'm speaking about the most played classes and that includes the already nerfed warrior. Don't get me wrong, I know nothing about other classes personally, but i've experienced the fights againt each like the time i saw an elementalist (Don't remember if elite spec) fighting 3 folks and winning the fight in a very kitten why, yeah it seems op but the dude ofc had to master all that , i mean, isn't ele like playing a piano? haha

Back to the point. I found last balance patch to be very disappointing as many people did with the changes and at some point insulting ( funny ik :P) for example seeing the new rifle skill on engineers to basically be skill 3 from Deadeye with a plus thanks to it's traits and bot if playing Mech. I get it, new expansion, new specs have to be strong to make expansion look cool and i don't mind that, it's cool rifle getting more popular actually so keep going, not asking for a nerf to this or that, not asking to instantly add a buff on damage, give full quickness to my spec and perma stealth while having a full time protective shield. All i ask is for it to be fair, to not forget about the old specs, to not fully kill old specs as it has happened already.

Stealth has always been part of thieves and mesmers identity and it's slowly taking it from it, keep in mind thieves don't have a 5-10seconds cd shield, reflectives, invulnerability like other specs do now plus the stealth from trapper rune and super speed. Stealth for us was for offensive yeah, but also it was our "shield" even tho we would get hit still by skills and attacks while on stealth, but it was our barrier, our way to repositioning while on a fight. These changes to Shadow arts were meant for Specter and only a few were good for Deadeye in my opinion, but i've got all stealth skills on i have lost more than half my stealth. Silent Scope only has 1 second stealth when dodge on rifle, that cannot even be considered stealth, even if it was meant to do our stealth shot, they see were we going, they will know we are about to shot it all and so shields here, reflectives, etc. Tbh DE was an already very predictable spec to fight against but now me personally i find it awful and this time i just can't find a way.

So again i'm repeating, not asking to nerf other specs that i personally find op and as easy or way easier and safer to play, no no i am asking to fix what has no attention since a while ago because certainly some old specs are outdated and no matter how much you buff or nerf them it's not gonna fix the problem. I'do like to see the less played classes to be as op as they were on it's prime days... Would be nice to see Deadeye and power builds in general once again alive, i guess rifle Mech is a starting?? I hope so

By the way, i am not pretending to insult anybody by sharing my thoughts jeje I hope whoever reads it can understand it's my way to express and not blaming on anybody well mabe a little on those who cried till they got most specs didn't like nerfed 😛 Guess that makes me a cryer now too... Jajaja

 

 

 

Tyvm Mr Warrior, i will use your edit hope you don't mind