Xenesis.6389 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 1:41 PM, Mikali.9651 said: PvE content team is really trying, they are doing some pretty nice improvements! now, PvP team and Balance team, it's on you not to ruin their work and bring bad PR to GW2. Let's do it right Oh you... thinking they even have a pvp balance team lmao it's all pve. 🤭 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Crono.4197 said: Living World 6 where? Are we only going to get stuff for raiders from now on? ArenaNet is really trying to turn this game in another general MMO where only doing raids and elitism matter, huh? Apparently reading is hard. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenesis.6389 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 19 hours ago, Caliboom.3218 said: I mean, all you WvW players do is complain everytime Anet dares touch WvW so I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to update it anymore. Yeah I mean let's see your game mode get ignored for years and see how that goes. Not like we have pve'ers complaining about map metas or living stories or anything *whistles* 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 8:17 PM, Biziut.3594 said: Kinda sad about deleting Divinitions, now after one bought or carried clear you can basicly farm escort to get all the rewards. Don't know how this encourage players to try to get into wings and bosses. Same situation like with dungeons. You could always do that. All you needed was a kill of one w5 boss to unlock LI->LD conversion. Sure, it was limited only to 164 LI->LD, but since you don't need more than 150 LD to get everything (that everything being one legendary ring, because nothing else needed LD), you very much always could just escort your way to it. All this future change is going to change is let you skip that one vendor interaction. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biziut.3594 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Astralporing.1957 said: You could always do that. All you needed was a kill of one w5 boss to unlock LI->LD conversion. Sure, it was limited only to 164 LI->LD, but since you don't need more than 150 LD to get everything (that everything being one legendary ring, because nothing else needed LD), you very much always could just escort your way to it. All this future change is going to change is let you skip that one vendor interaction. Oh man, you just made me realise my mistake, I need to edit this post. I meant Gaeting Crystals and Magnetite Shards. Need to edit it. Thanks btw. LI and LD is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darky.8143 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Top Tier Supplies getting removed? aka the first CM kill of each boss (those raid supplies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schimmi.6872 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Darky.8143 said: Top Tier Supplies getting removed? aka the first CM kill of each boss (those raid supplies) No, the achievment "Top-Tiered Terror Toppler" for doing 5 CMs / week will be removed, as each CM now will give extra rewards per week itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 4:07 AM, mindcircus.1506 said: TLDR: 3 more months, no new content planned. Whether you played or didn't play the original living world, this is still redone content and still takes time. And if you think putting living World Season 1 back into the game doesn't improve the game, then I don't know what to say to you. The fact is, more people staying in the game, means more people to eventually do end game content with them if that's all your interested in. This is good for the game. I'd rather have this than new content any day of the week. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Xenesis.6389 said: Yeah I mean let's see your game mode get ignored for years and see how that goes. Not like we have pve'ers complaining about map metas or living stories or anything *whistles* And PvErs definitely didn't complaints again and again about earning GoB by playing WvW 😂 Imagine if a WvWer dare to complaint about doing PvE for legendaries 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labjax.2465 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ultramex.1506 said: And PvErs definitely didn't complaints again and again about earning GoB by playing WvW 😂 Imagine if a WvWer dare to complaint about doing PvE for legendaries I don't have to imagine it, WvWers do complain about it every time the Gift of Battle / Gift of Exploration debate is brought up and plenty of people support them being able to get it without having to do PvE. 7 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Labjax.2465 said: I don't have to imagine it, WvWers do complain about it every time the Gift of Battle / Gift of Exploration debate is brought up and plenty of people support them being able to get it without having to do PvE. Be nice to have but no doubt time consuming just as PvE GoExploration, which i dont mind, we need to balance things out 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ultramex.1506 said: Be nice to have but no doubt time consuming just as PvE GoExploration, which i dont mind, we need to balance things out As many people pointed out, all that would need to be done is to set up an exchange vendor, where you could buy GoEs for GoBs and GoBs for GoEs. Probably at an unequal rate that would make it inefficient in either direction, to persuade players to rather try the normal approach. Edited July 15, 2022 by Astralporing.1957 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbru.6014 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Regarding the return of LS1 instead of getting more content tacked onto EoD: - In case you didn't notice, EoD STARTS with a direct extension of LS1 via Mai Trin and the Aetherblades. Much of the game's entire ten years of story depends on things that happened in LS1 and doesn't make sense without it. And the upcoming Steam release has the potential to make or break GW2's future, which means LS1 needs to come back to the game's timeline so it all makes sense to what will hopefully be a flood of new players. - Also in case you didn't notice, EoD is NOT the resounding success Anet would have liked. It sold well, but as the new shine is wearing off, many players (self included) are finding EoD less than satisfactory (to put it politely). Anet needs to figure out what to do about EoD's shortcomings before they can move on with new content spun from it. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labjax.2465 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jimbru.6014 said: - Also in case you didn't notice, EoD is NOT the resounding success Anet would have liked. It sold well, but as the new shine is wearing off, many players (self included) are finding EoD less than satisfactory (to put it politely). Anet needs to figure out what to do about EoD's shortcomings before they can move on with new content spun from it. Realistically (cynically?) they will probably just ignore most of its issues and start doing a post EoD season after LW1 is done. But I would like them to revisit some stuff, like research notes for example. Or jade bot cores. Or meta rewards and meta design... 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Ultramex.1506 said: And PvErs definitely didn't complaints again and again about earning GoB by playing WvW 😂 Imagine if a WvWer dare to complaint about doing PvE for legendaries Um, they do? I know they don't make as many threads as the "Why do I have to do WvW for GoB" crowd, but there's always WvWers in those threads complaining about zone completion. So it doesn't take imagining. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Gibson.4036 said: Um, they do? I know they don't make as many threads as the "Why do I have to do WvW for GoB" crowd, but there's always WvWers in those threads complaining about zone completion. So it doesn't take imagining. That is more those wvw players saying if I have to do pve for gift of exploration for my legendaries then you have to do wvw for gift of battle bub. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: That is more those wvw players saying if I have to do pve for gift of exploration for my legendaries then you have to do wvw for gift of battle bub. Eh, still complaints. I'm more sympathetic to their complaints, because GoE takes a lot more than GoB, but it's silly to pretend WvWers don't complain about it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gibson.4036 said: Eh, still complaints. I'm more sympathetic to their complaints, because GoE takes a lot more than GoB, but it's silly to pretend WvWers don't complain about it. I should be more clear, what i meant is WvWers rarely (if ever from my view) make a thread asking why should we play PvE for legendaries but PVErs sure love complaining as much as they like, while if WvWers do no doubt they gonna get shot down hard, might as well complaint back when PvErs complaint about the game mode again and again Edited July 15, 2022 by Ultramex.1506 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliboom.3218 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 53 minutes ago, Ultramex.1506 said: I should be more clear, what i meant is WvWers rarely (if ever from my view) make a thread asking why should we play PvE for legendaries but PVErs sure love complaining as much as they like, while if WvWers do no doubt they gonna get shot down hard, might as well complaint back when PvErs complaint about the game mode again and again I mean, I'm pretty sure they want to gatekeep the GoB to "force" people into WvW because, in their own words, "they might like it". (Which is a dumb excuse, WvW is always available, if they want to try it, they can, they shouldn't have to play the gamemode if they don't like it) Like, I genuinely don't understand, how is giving players an alternative way to get the GoB a bad thing? Does it affect WvWers in a negative way? Why can't we just allow people to stick to the gamemodes they actually enjoy instead of having to play a gamemode they dislike? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Caliboom.3218 said: I mean, I'm pretty sure they want to gatekeep the GoE to "force" people into PvE because, in their own words, "they might like it". (Which is a dumb excuse, PvE is always available, if they want to try it, they can, they shouldn't have to play the gamemode if they don't like it) Like, I genuinely don't understand, how is giving players an alternative way to get the GoE a bad thing? Does it affect PvEers in a negative way? Why can't we just allow people to stick to the gamemodes they actually enjoy instead of having to play a gamemode they dislike? Fixed, that's how easy the failure of the argument is. Not sure why it's suddenly in the roadmap thread though, since it's not about gifts. Edited July 15, 2022 by Dawdler.8521 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Caliboom.3218 said: I mean, I'm pretty sure they want to gatekeep the GoB to "force" people into WvW because, in their own words, "they might like it". (Which is a dumb excuse, WvW is always available, if they want to try it, they can, they shouldn't have to play the gamemode if they don't like it) Like, I genuinely don't understand, how is giving players an alternative way to get the GoB a bad thing? Does it affect WvWers in a negative way? Why can't we just allow people to stick to the gamemodes they actually enjoy instead of having to play a gamemode they dislike? I will have the answer when Anet give WvW more legendaries 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute.5408 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Jimbru.6014 said: Regarding the return of LS1 instead of getting more content tacked onto EoD: - In case you didn't notice, EoD STARTS with a direct extension of LS1 via Mai Trin and the Aetherblades. Much of the game's entire ten years of story depends on things that happened in LS1 and doesn't make sense without it. And the upcoming Steam release has the potential to make or break GW2's future, which means LS1 needs to come back to the game's timeline so it all makes sense to what will hopefully be a flood of new players. - Also in case you didn't notice, EoD is NOT the resounding success Anet would have liked. It sold well, but as the new shine is wearing off, many players (self included) are finding EoD less than satisfactory (to put it politely). Anet needs to figure out what to do about EoD's shortcomings before they can move on with new content spun from it. To be honest, they don't need to do anything to EoD. Most of its problems are map-contained. As long as devs can iron out map design, they can just make a new LW map proper and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliboom.3218 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ultramex.1506 said: I will have the answer when Anet give WvW more legendaries So you don't have a counterargument then. Speaking of legendaries, if Anet were to give us a way to get the GoB in PvE, I honestly wouldn't really mind if they gave a way for players to get the GoE in WvW. It's like I said earlier, let people stick to the gamemodes they actually like. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Not sure why it's suddenly in the roadmap thread though, since it's not about gifts. Wel duhhh.. It’s because as wvw’ers we should just be happy with whatever scraps we get and never complain because we, of course, don’t support the game at all and we should be seen and not heard. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliboom.3218 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Strider Pj.2193 said: Wel duhhh.. It’s because as wvw’ers we should just be happy with whatever scraps we get and never complain because we, of course, don’t support the game at all and we should be seen and not heard. Literally no one said that. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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