Danikat.8537 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Labjax.2465 said: If something is ineffective, it can often be improved. Talking about people like they are hopelessly braindead is just refusing to take responsibility for design, which is a conscious and deliberate process, but because of the natural familiarity with it that develops in those who build it, frequently winds up with all kinds of gaps in presentation that are never understood until ignorant people are in front of the technology. The same applies to other things too, like writing a novel, for example. A reader can shatter your notions of what kind of story you wrote. That some people sometimes persevere in spite of confusion and learn the design doesn't mean the design is fine and people who don't get it are inept. A designer needs more clarity than vague testaments about people's intelligence by those who are familiar with the technology. None of the comments you quoted made any mention of the intelligence of the people who don't know about LFG. One called them ignorant, but that's a lack of knowledge, nothing to do with a person's intelligence. Also no one here can take responsibility for the design because none of us work for Anet. Likewise no one from Anet has commented on the idea of an automated queue so we don't know what they think about the idea. The point was simply that if someone has not read or has forgotten previous information about the LFG tool there's no reason to think they would read or remember an identical notice in a different place. To use someone else's analogy from earlier it would be like noticing people tend to push a door marked 'pull' and putting a sign on a wall approaching the door saying 'door needs to be pulled' and expecting that to fix the problem. If you can think of something which might work you could of course suggest it. I haven't been able to think of anything, since the message probably needs to be delivered when they want to find a group but there's no way for the game to know when someone is trying to group up and isn't using the LFG tool. Other than of course the existing 'fix' that other players will tell them. I think other players absolutely can be a valid source of information in a multiplayer game since no one is expected to go through the game alone, but that's also somewhat unreliable - there's no guarentee they'll be told about the LFG menu or how to use it when asking how to find a group. They may just get people offering to join them, which is ideal in the short-term but doesn't teach them what their other options are. Or they may get no response at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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