Sahne.6950 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Honestly.... i think the best nerf to projectiles we will ever get.... is tempest becoming the new meta, which is literally what is happening. How about we dont nerf everything that we find annoying, and rather start to counter the current meta? Very wild idea... i know... but how about we literally use counters to things that we believe are "overpowered", instead of crying for blanket nerfs to projectiles XD Because THERE IS COUNTERS! believe it or not 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, Sahne.6950 said: Very wild idea... i know... but how about we literally use counters to things that we believe are "overpowered", instead of crying for blanket nerfs to projectiles XD Because THERE IS COUNTERS! believe it or not 😉 That's not what people want. What they want is to be acknowldged as good players unfairly shut down by abusive use of OP mechanisms that need nerf. People that cry about powercreep all day long would probably find themself in a litteral hellscape if they were to play the original game template. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said: That's not what people want. What they want is to be acknowldged as good players unfairly shut down by abusive use of OP mechanisms that need nerf. Yep. People crying range is too powerful. People crying there's too much access to reflect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 @Sahne.6950 well just to be fair in that state wouldnt it made sence then to give cc dmg back cause you could just as in your words simply abuse meta to play around it? 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberzombie.7348 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Gibson.4036 said: Yep. People crying range is too powerful. People crying there's too much access to reflect. And that's why I always have a range and melee options, even on warrior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Pati.2438 said: @Sahne.6950 well just to be fair in that state wouldnt it made sence then to give cc dmg back cause you could just as in your words simply abuse meta to play around it? 😜 giving ccskills their damage back or atleast 50% of the original value is something im advocating for! currently in the battle of: CC vs Stunbreaks and stabi. The CC is the big looser here. And the poor soul suffering the most.... is warrior.... Edited August 2, 2022 by Sahne.6950 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Sahne.6950 said: giving ccskills their damage back or atleast 50% of the original value is something im advocating for! currently in the battle of: CC vs Stunbreaks and stabi. The CC is the big looser here. And the poor soul suffering the most.... is warrior.... Meanwhile, half this forum complaining about "CC Spam Meta" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahne.6950 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ragnar.4257 said: Meanwhile, half this forum complaining about "CC Spam Meta" Those are the people that stunbreak a 1 second daze and then complain that they have no Stunbreaks left. Edited August 2, 2022 by Sahne.6950 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myror.7521 Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 @Ragnar.4257 Well yes actually i miss the time before that febr 2020 patch. Yes it was actually power creep. But also everything was power creeped so everything was actually balanced. Now it is just more like "okay who could tank the most and also deal good damage at same time" and after they nerf the hard tanky classes its now more like "okay we now need classes with ranged attacks cause gues what the only way we might get punished as ranged class is just refelction, cause the melee classes get punished thx to cc=0 dmg". So in the end we now end in this situation where like litterly every meta class get any "ranged" skill that is somehow good and spamable. Ends up in Tempest been favorite over guardian thx to its good projectile hate support style ^^. This also ends up in a hard toxic meta style where running away and spam your skills is actually ways more effective than try to outplay your enemy with good timed ccs and melee dmg skills. (Just gimme my confused smileys as mutch as you want lel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellhunter.9675 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pati.2438 said: @Ragnar.4257 Well yes actually i miss the time before that febr 2020 patch. Yes it was actually power creep. But also everything was power creeped so everything was actually balanced. We have more viable builds (and classes) now, than we had prior to feb2020. That kitten wasn't balanced at all. 1 hour ago, Pati.2438 said: @Ragnar.4257 Now it is just more like "okay who could tank the most and also deal good damage at same time" And back then is was like "okay, who can deal more damage while being in evadeframe". If you like what it was before feb2020 I respect it as your opinion. But not everyone liked it. Edited August 2, 2022 by Spellhunter.9675 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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