Pips for Participating in a Successful Defence

[Svarty.8019]

What if the reward for defending successfully was pips? 

Would this encourage people to try?

The rationale is this; Most other conceivable incentives would encourage people to transfer to a winning server instead of remaining to defend on a losing one.

 

I recognise that there's a ... scenario (not a bug) ... where the defending team is awarded credit for participating in a successful defense before the enemy is repelled from their objectives. I think that's an acceptable situation because at least the player was there at the time. Pip farmers are likely to be killed if they don't actively defend and apart from the scenario I just outlined, they'll not get any credit.

 

What do you think?

[Ubi.4136]

40 minutes ago, Svarty.8019 said:

What if the reward for defending successfully was pips? 

Would this encourage people to try?

The rationale is this; Most other conceivable incentives would encourage people to transfer to a winning server instead of remaining to defend on a losing one.

 

I recognise that there's a ... scenario (not a bug) ... where the defending team is awarded credit for participating in a successful defense before the enemy is repelled from their objectives. I think that's an acceptable situation because at least the player was there at the time. Pip farmers are likely to be killed if they don't actively defend and apart from the scenario I just outlined, they'll not get any credit.

 

What do you think?

The only issue here is that Anet does NOT want people defending.  They nerf or remove anything that puts a dent in boonball blobs.  They want 30-70 people taking everything in under 2 minutes with minimal interference to the "fun" the stacked server is having.  They do want the occasional outnumbered player melting to the 1 spam of the blob though, so the blob feels accomplished.

[Xenesis.6389]

Why would a side attack you now in your objective if defending is the only one that will be rewarded pips? Plus you can pop the defense event by just aggroing the guards on a run by, people should be rewarded with pips for defending during those periods too?

 

There's no need to offer rewards like pips, people already do defend, I still see lemming groups feeding ball groups in towers every night. The problem is when the enemy brings huge numbers with/or boon ball that overwhelmingly tell the defenders they have no chance, then there's no point.

 

Also make proper scout calls if you want people to respond quicker or at all. Plenty of times I don't respond to something because all the lazy scout did was put up a link to the objective. Place/numbers/side at minimum, numbers tend to increase the urgency. Spamming just a link that I click on to focus on the map only to see white swords, does absolutely nothing.

[Zok.4956]

2 hours ago, Svarty.8019 said:

What if the reward for defending successfully was pips? 

Probably a lot more players would be standing on the walls of stonemist PewPew-ing from 1200 range. 😉

 

[ArchonWing.9480]

4 hours ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

Plenty of times I don't respond to something because all the lazy scout did was put up a link to the objective.

When I see this I just tell them it's a tower. (or whatever).

But it's probably worse if they just link random ruins. Who the heck remembers those names?

Although why do people not pull invul and just let the wall fall?

Edited August 12, 2022 by ArchonWing.9480

[Xenesis.6389]

4 minutes ago, ArchonWing.9480 said:

When I see this I just tell them it's a tower. (or whatever).

But it's probably worse if they just link random ruins. Who the heck remembers those names?

Although why do people not pull invul and just let the wall fall?

Funny thing when I get to an objective that's under attack, first thing I check are the tactics available and then the siege to use. Mortars up for catas or trebs? cannons to hit inner gates or siege? Don't understand how some things don't become second nature to people. Nope, let me stand on the wall and try to aoe down on the 40 people below while my team gets here, they won't pull me or bomb the kitten out of me, nope, oh and use stun breaks or stability or stealth while doing my shenanigans on the wall? pffffft nope! cause lemmings just wanna have fun!

[ArchonWing.9480]

1 hour ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

Nope, let me stand on the wall and try to aoe down on the 40 people below while my team gets here, they won't pull me or bomb the kitten out of me, nope, oh and use stun breaks or stability or stealth while doing my shenanigans on the wall? pffffft nope! cause lemmings just wanna have fun!

Well some people may be trying to kill the siege but in most cases they end up doing a whole lot of nothing. Even if you could down someone, they would get instantly res'd, and if they didn't, they're probably a low value member to the squad anyways

Edited August 12, 2022 by ArchonWing.9480