JayHog.3280 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Just now, Linken.6345 said: And that what we are saying ibs is a living world not expansion like pof hot and eod. They just icebrood saga instead of living world season 5 because they dident want to release an expansion and thought they could deliver the same over time. That failed massively was cut down in size so cant even be compared to a expansion. So yea you are wrong you are comparing apples and oranges. You do know you can buy ibs just like living world season 2-4 right? Doesn't matter, if they couldn't deliver it as an expansion, shouldn't had given it a proper name. Otherwise just change the name to LW5 and this discussion ends and everything makes sense again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, JayHog.3280 said: Doesn't matter, if they couldn't deliver it as an expansion, shouldn't had given it a proper name. Otherwise just change the name to LW5 and this discussion ends and everything makes sense again. See my edit, Im quite sure it will be renamed ingame soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayHog.3280 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: See my edit, Im quite sure it will be renamed ingame soon. If that's true, then the discussion becomes meaningless in the long run. Until then, not expecting much of a response for now. Good day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, JayHog.3280 said: If that's true, then the discussion becomes meaningless in the long run. Until then, not expecting much of a response for now. Good day. Well it was meaningless from the start since you missunderstood differance bettwen living world and a expansion. Hint it is not if it has a name or not. You even said it in your post you can buy seasons without spending real life cash guess what you can do with IBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayHog.3280 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: Well it was meaningless from the start since you missunderstood differance bettwen living world and a expansion. Hint it is not if it has a name or not. You even said it in your post you can buy seasons without spending real life cash guess what you can do with IBS. Name = Expansion, even if it's a kitten one. LWX = Not an expansion. Again, if they actually cared about consistency, they wouldn't had tried to sell it as one. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, JayHog.3280 said: HoT you get glider, Pof you get mounts and EoD you get fishing and boats and a turtle. All you can use in general PvE that isn't IBS restricted is a table full of gadgets that you still have to pay with a war currency from the Charr, barely useful. There's also mount stealth, which i actually use a lot. Far more than i use fishing, skiff or turtle, tbh. Edited August 21, 2022 by Astralporing.1957 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodokuna Akuma.9570 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 7:25 PM, Odin.6487 said: Ill make this short and sweet. Spvp is neglected. Win traders run rampant and the player base is non existent. WvW: alliances were announced 5 years ago. and they still cant deliver. Last wvw map update was 2489 days ago. Rewards are outdated and the mastery system is also severely outdated. Core part of the game being neglected. Dungeons: no dungeon updates or reworks besides adding gen3 skins to dungeons. Fractals: last fractal map was 700 days ago. Since then weve seen zero fractal updates, zero fractal reward updates. Neglected. Raids: No new raids with EoD. Build Diversity is at an all time low due to afk builds being meta. Strikes: Strikes are fine, the rewards just need to be tuned. We as players shouldn't be content with how much of the game is being neglected. Speaking of neglect you seem to be neglecting a few important details. Such as for WvW not too long ago they made adjustments to the pip rewards slightly with the outnumbered rework and in the process of going throw beta phases with wvw restructuring and alliances as we speak. So there is known activity in their deveolpment there with recent blog posts outlining clear direction for a few future changes. Dungeons is a depricated mode as iti was discontinued after launch basicly so its slightly unfair to bring that up but even on this front. They recently unified the dungeon currencies making it easier to interact with the dungeon reward structure. Fractals: recently had a major adjustment to its instabilities which overall has toned down less fun instability combinations and improved interactibility of the instabilities. While the reward structure hasnt been updated its not like fractals are suffering in gph. Raids: Recently had the emboldening system added on rotation to help insentivise people to give raiding a try and get new people into the content type while also having the double gold raid rotating weekly rather than staying stuck on wing 7. In addition they made changes to CM rewards granting repeatable weekly rewards to completing raid CM improving how rewarding raids are overall when doing CMs. Also there was the additon of the weekly 10 mystic clovers to the Raid reward npc. Strikes: They improved the gold reward for completing EOD CMs and added a new infusion to the drops of CMs and can be obtained also from completing them all once. On almost all fronts they have been making adjustments and improvements to varying degrees to the adformentioned game modes. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayHog.3280 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Astralporing.1957 said: There's also mount stealth, which i actually use a lot. Far more than i use fishing, skiff or turtle, tbh. Mount stealth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labjax.2465 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JayHog.3280 said: Mount stealth? One of the waystation masteries adds a permanent ability for you when mounted that has a 40 sec CD and allows you to go stealthed while mounted for 5 sec. Edit: In PvE that is. Doesn't work in WvW. Edited August 22, 2022 by Labjax.2465 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, JayHog.3280 said: Mount stealth? Stealth (mount) and Stealth 2.0 (mount) Especially useful when farming chests and certain currencies, if you want to do the route very fast without having to fight any mobs. I use it all the time when farming icebound chests and winterberries. Never have to fight another mob when using in conjuction with tools with glyphs. 4 hours ago, Labjax.2465 said: One of the waystation masteries adds a permanent ability for you when mounted that has a 40 sec CD and allows you to go stealthed while mounted for 5 sec. The last mastery upgrades the stealth from 5 to 8 secs, aside from upgrading EMP, Remote Charge & Rocket Jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicky.9751 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) /////////////////// Edited March 24, 2023 by vicky.9751 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Comparing B2P game with a subscription game and complaining about lack of preferred content. /smh 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 1:55 AM, JayHog.3280 said: I meant in items that you can use in open world. HoT you get glider, Pof you get mounts and EoD you get fishing and boats and a turtle. All you can use in general PvE that isn't IBS restricted is a table full of gadgets that you still have to pay with a war currency from the Charr, barely useful. I don't know about LW because I haven't played those and I don't count those as expansions because you can just buy the missions there unlike the expansions that have to be bought with actual money, I just tend to call IBS an expansion because they actually bothered to name it. Instead of just calling it "LW5". So I'm not the one that's wrong, you guys are blaming me of being wrong for the wrong perspective. IBS is no more an expansion than are the other LW seasons....and if you have played IBS then you have played LW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) On 8/20/2022 at 4:43 AM, JayHog.3280 said: Buddy, I can fish and I can casually ride a boat thanks to EoD, if you want to blame an expansion for lacking content, blame Icebrood Saga. The only mastery from there that "helps" in the rest of the game is a kitten table with a bunch of specific gadgets. And you have to learn to summon it somehow. You forget mount stealth. I love my mount stealth. 😄 Edit: oops, replied before I saw Astralporing’s post. Edited August 22, 2022 by Gibson.4036 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorem.8104 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 22 hours ago, Kodokuna Akuma.9570 said: Speaking of neglect you seem to be neglecting a few important details. Such as for WvW not too long ago they made adjustments to the pip rewards slightly with the outnumbered rework and in the process of going throw beta phases with wvw restructuring and alliances as we speak. So there is known activity in their deveolpment there with recent blog posts outlining clear direction for a few future changes. Dungeons is a depricated mode as iti was discontinued after launch basicly so its slightly unfair to bring that up but even on this front. They recently unified the dungeon currencies making it easier to interact with the dungeon reward structure. Fractals: recently had a major adjustment to its instabilities which overall has toned down less fun instability combinations and improved interactibility of the instabilities. While the reward structure hasnt been updated its not like fractals are suffering in gph. Raids: Recently had the emboldening system added on rotation to help insentivise people to give raiding a try and get new people into the content type while also having the double gold raid rotating weekly rather than staying stuck on wing 7. In addition they made changes to CM rewards granting repeatable weekly rewards to completing raid CM improving how rewarding raids are overall when doing CMs. Also there was the additon of the weekly 10 mystic clovers to the Raid reward npc. Strikes: They improved the gold reward for completing EOD CMs and added a new infusion to the drops of CMs and can be obtained also from completing them all once. On almost all fronts they have been making adjustments and improvements to varying degrees to the adformentioned game modes. You realise they announced wvw alliance work over a year ago now, and said we'd have it last year, right? Just check my sig. Also, wvw rewards were nerfed since my sig, as they removed multiple ways to get participation with no upside while changing pips and removing outnumbered pips because "Alliances" was supposed to fix that. So lower pop servers lost out on extra pips and have had no compensation now for an extremely long time. Not to mention the constant buffs to the boon ball and nerfs to anti boon ball tactics and abilities. I'd never quote the "cornerstone" gamemode of gw2 as something to "promote with improvements". Pvp scene still dead, Fractals, nothing new for 2 years and had its rewards nerfed and offensive potion changed to offer defence stats. Raids. New ability in them because no one does them to get more of those no one doing them more. So no, i'd not count "on almost all fronts". 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayHog.3280 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 16 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said: IBS is no more an expansion than are the other LW seasons....and if you have played IBS then you have played LW. I have not, I assumed IBS was a proper expansion, hence why it's not named LW. It's the only one so far that's not LW1 that I've bothered to stream an adventure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyaeversong.2678 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Yeah honestly I don't know why people are praising EoD this much. Mid story at best with a disappointing dragon, pretty but dysfunctional maps that are a nightmare to navigate, a new gimmick (fishing) that gets old fast but takes ages to train, a new method of transport introduced that is nothing more than gem farm for Anet, mediocre AF meta events, jade tech that gets in your face at every corner and gets old fast. If you're not into strikes like me, there really isnt any replayability value in EoD. Personally, I find this to be the weakest expansion. Seemed like the one with most marketing around it so I guess that's where the hype comes from.🤷♀️ 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, anyaeversong.2678 said: Yeah honestly I don't know why people are praising EoD this much. Mid story at best with a disappointing dragon, pretty but dysfunctional maps that are a nightmare to navigate, a new gimmick (fishing) that gets old fast but takes ages to train, a new method of transport introduced that is nothing more than gem farm for Anet, mediocre AF meta events, jade tech that gets in your face at every corner and gets old fast. If you're not into strikes like me, there really isnt any replayability value in EoD. Personally, I find this to be the weakest expansion. Seemed like the one with most marketing around it so I guess that's where the hype comes from.🤷♀️ Agreed for the most part. If it werent for strikes and a small number of the elite specs EoD would be a complete waste to me. I think that HoT had more marketing. I wouldnt be surprised if the EoD hype was due to excitement over returning to Cantha (very requested). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, anyaeversong.2678 said: Yeah honestly I don't know why people are praising EoD this much. Mid story at best with a disappointing dragon, pretty but dysfunctional maps that are a nightmare to navigate, a new gimmick (fishing) that gets old fast but takes ages to train, a new method of transport introduced that is nothing more than gem farm for Anet, mediocre AF meta events, jade tech that gets in your face at every corner and gets old fast. If you're not into strikes like me, there really isnt any replayability value in EoD. Personally, I find this to be the weakest expansion. Seemed like the one with most marketing around it so I guess that's where the hype comes from.🤷♀️ I was just thinking about this today, and wondering whether I’ll buy the next expansion or wait for it to go on sale. I’m spending very little time in EOD. Specter is the only elite spec I’m really using. I hard passed the gen 3 leggies when I saw the cost of variants. A full LW season might make me reassess that. The way I look back on the previous expansions and lump their associated LW season in with them in my head. But in the current state, there’s just not that much there there. Edited August 24, 2022 by Gibson.4036 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyaeversong.2678 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ashen.2907 said: Agreed for the most part. If it werent for strikes and a small number of the elite specs EoD would be a complete waste to me. I think that HoT had more marketing. I wouldnt be surprised if the EoD hype was due to excitement over returning to Cantha (very requested). As someone who was super hyped for Cantha's return, I'm massively disappointed of how they've massacred my boy. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, anyaeversong.2678 said: As someone who was super hyped for Cantha's return, I'm massively disappointed of how they've massacred my boy. Same. Despite its flaws, Factions was my favorite of the GW1 releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, anyaeversong.2678 said: As someone who was super hyped for Cantha's return, I'm massively disappointed of how they've massacred my boy. Yet another "be careful what you wish for from Anet" thing. Seems like some players pine for certain things in game and when Anet deigns to produce them, they're never what the players wanted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syvaris Laskaris.5247 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, kharmin.7683 said: Yet another "be careful what you wish for from Anet" thing. Seems like some players pine for certain things in game and when Anet deigns to produce them, they're never what the players wanted. Still can't believe after 10 years they finally decide to sell a Shiro set in the gem store and they decided to make their own OC donut-steal design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin.6487 Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 7:42 PM, Kodokuna Akuma.9570 said: Speaking of neglect you seem to be neglecting a few important details. Such as for WvW not too long ago they made adjustments to the pip rewards slightly with the outnumbered rework and in the process of going throw beta phases with wvw restructuring and alliances as we speak. So there is known activity in their deveolpment there with recent blog posts outlining clear direction for a few future changes. Dungeons is a depricated mode as iti was discontinued after launch basicly so its slightly unfair to bring that up but even on this front. They recently unified the dungeon currencies making it easier to interact with the dungeon reward structure. Fractals: recently had a major adjustment to its instabilities which overall has toned down less fun instability combinations and improved interactibility of the instabilities. While the reward structure hasnt been updated its not like fractals are suffering in gph. Raids: Recently had the emboldening system added on rotation to help insentivise people to give raiding a try and get new people into the content type while also having the double gold raid rotating weekly rather than staying stuck on wing 7. In addition they made changes to CM rewards granting repeatable weekly rewards to completing raid CM improving how rewarding raids are overall when doing CMs. Also there was the additon of the weekly 10 mystic clovers to the Raid reward npc. Strikes: They improved the gold reward for completing EOD CMs and added a new infusion to the drops of CMs and can be obtained also from completing them all once. On almost all fronts they have been making adjustments and improvements to varying degrees to the adformentioned game modes. my man. almost everything you mentioned could be done by a blizzard intern off the clock. theres nothing innovating or reinvigorating about changing instabilities. There hasnt been a map in 700 plus days pip rewards for wvw? outnumbered changes? again bro those are super small adjustments. cmon man. an infusion reward? now i know this is a troll post. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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