Sunshine.5014 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 No skill/trait should grant toughness. It should reduce the damage directly. So many of Ele skills and traits are stuck with the 2013 design. We really need a pass through them all. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunki.3916 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I made a complete list back when earth attunement and weaver also gave toughness. They get removed bit by bit (for some stupid reason not all of them...). Right now Signet of Earth and Rock Barrier are still missing. Maybe takes them 1-3 more years to figure it out... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallas.8150 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Given the fact they have the lowest health pool and armor, I think a 10 to 12 percent damage reduction would be a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) Signet of Earth is a personal decision and 180 toughness but if you run scepter on elementalist rock barrier can draw aggro with 250 toughness when it could just apply pulsed barrier , personal aegis, or something which is more thematic. Edited September 5, 2022 by Infusion.7149 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Plz don't take my passive, guaranteed 180 toughness. My elly is fragile enough by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Similarly the guardian signet of judgement has damage reduction and so does mech barrier signet, both are better than 180 toughness. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine.5014 Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, TheQuickFox.3826 said: Plz don't take my passive, guaranteed 180 toughness. My elly is fragile enough by himself. I don't think you understand, we're not talking about removing it without compensation. Mech signet reduces 10% strike damage and another 10% condi damage. I'd be happy with something like -15% strike damage for Ele. Then make the activation effect grant immunity to critical strike for 5 allies for 5 seconds. Give Ele something to compete with Aegis and Mech. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sunshine.5014 said: I don't think you understand, we're not talking about removing it without compensation. Mech signet reduces 10% strike damage and another 10% condi damage. I'd be happy with something like -15% strike damage for Ele. Then make the activation effect grant immunity to critical strike for 5 allies for 5 seconds. Give Ele something to compete with Aegis and Mech. As long as it is passive. I don't need another skill to micromanage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosknight.3041 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 most of ele signets need some kind of rework, fire and restoration are probably the only ones that are good at where they are at. air, active needs changing. aoe blind is kinda lame earth passive, yeah put a 10-15% damage reduction on it's passive instead of toughness increase water, change reduced condi duration passive to something more supportive to team play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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