KeoLegend.5132 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Im still at work, so... hows Vindi Dodges now? Half the damage, or is it the same? fingers crossed we might become a good DPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken.7932 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Feels a lot more fun to me. Like the best of what I like with Staff Daredevil, but with the more interesting complexity of Vindicator. Pretty optimistic so far. After playing it for many hours, I have to revise this opinion. I think it isn't great. We've really lost some flavour for the elite, as you're now more inclined to dodge a lot instead of relying on your toolkit of mitigation. Also, the big one is that the dodge/leap isn't useful as a gap closer, as it used to be, so that's a bit annoying. It's more like jump up and down on the spot to smash whoever you're fighting, instead of leaping around like a ninja. Sucks. Edited October 5, 2022 by Hawken.7932 Revised opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Hawken.7932 said: Feels a lot more fun to me. Like the best of what I like with Staff Daredevil, but with the more interesting complexity of Vindicator. Pretty optimistic so far. is the damage still the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevaultdwellinggamer.4267 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KeoLegend.5132 said: is the damage still the same? Nope. They stealth nerfed it. Isn't in the patch notes. Edited October 4, 2022 by Thevaultdwellinggamer.4267 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warscythes.9307 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, KeoLegend.5132 said: is the damage still the same? No, is about halved. Total damage went up by maybe 200-300 dps. Is not a dps buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angesombre.4630 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Much better but the damage has been reduced, but there is still a bug with the dodge in the water and on the GS3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warscythes.9307 said: No, is about halved. Total damage went up by maybe 200-300 dps. Is not a dps buff. 😞 my hopes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eros.6801 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) the dodge feels really good now tho the damage was halved but that's understandable. What i don't like is when the dodge end there is a small animation of rev pulling the sword out and it looks so freaking epic b4 but now they speed up the animation the sword pulling move got ruined atleast on GS. Edited October 4, 2022 by Eros.6801 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheex.8932 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) rip the fun of big damage numbers from the slam. Edited October 4, 2022 by Pheex.8932 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 for pve damage did not change much but it feels much better to play it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 are you guys spamming 2 dodges to keep the DPS or just using 1 and using the other when needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar.8634 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, KeoLegend.5132 said: are you guys spamming 2 dodges to keep the DPS or just using 1 and using the other when needed? dodge to upkeep bonus and to dodge attacks/mechanics. dps will not be better from spamming. unless u kill trashmobs with sigil of stamina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily.1935 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Playing around with it and it feels nice. Now I have only one thing I'd like changed just a touch. Vassals of the Empire imo should do a tripple chill pulse with overall the same damage as now. Reason for that suggestion is I want to play with an abyssal chill build on Vindicator. Probably still wouldn't be great, but it would be a lot of fun. Even in my testing now its kinda fun, I just wish it had 3 quick strikes to it. The boons can stay the same on how they function. But having the impact pulse with chill and damage would be fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Dodge is busted at wvw lul, you are in the orbit permanently 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Theme/flavor of the dodge is ruined and the damage sucks now because it’s halved. I’m ready for them to revert it honestly. That being said, I was never in favor of having 2 dodges to begin with. Also, just making a note now, the evade skills will be nerfed in some way (most likely energy costs) now because we have 2 dodges. Just wait and see. 4 3 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeoLegend.5132 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Lonewolf Kai.3682 said: Theme/flavor of the dodge is ruined and the damage sucks now because it’s halved. I’m ready for them to revert it honestly. That being said, I was never in favor of having 2 dodges to begin with. Also, just making a note now, the evade skills will be nerfed in some way (most likely energy costs) now because we have 2 dodges. Just wait and see. AN INTERESTING OPINNION. Looks like you are the first on it 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad.4301 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) The DPS dodge was reduced from 4.0 to somewhere around a 2.0 power coefficient so it does roughly half to 30% less damage and the buff was taken from 15s to 10s. The Boon dodge had it's boon duration reduced from 2 to 1 seconds. The Heal dodge was seemingly hit the hardest, while the buff is still 6 seconds, the actual healing/barrier was reduced by what feels like 75%. For me personally it healed anywhere from 4.5k-6k pre-patch, now it's doing 1.6k which is more than a 50% reduction. *heal dodge numbers are in a full healing build/gear. *edit None of that matters though because if you run Reaver's Curse you can infinitely spam dodges with vigor and become unkillable. Edited October 4, 2022 by Nomad.4301 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagnant Moon.5648 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I want them to revert it. I enjoyed only having one jump; made it feel unique and fun to me. I guess I never had an issue with dodging because I tended to use abilities that moved me out and back in easily. 2 7 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thevaultdwellinggamer.4267 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Lmao, if you build right, you can dodge more than a thief. Suck it thieves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 This has to be the patch where they messed up the most in the whole games history (yet). I cant even remember the any other patch where there was so many bugs or unintended stuff with the specs 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkai.4692 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I dont understand why they did nerf the damage? Vindicator is a selfish dps melee(!) spec with no cc, no combo fields and no utility at all. pMech still deals a lot more dmg in a real fight and brings more cc. What a joke. 7 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion.9617 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Vindicator always has access to support skills - not saying that a DPS oriented vindicator is strong at supporting but it does have access to it. Also remember that vindicator, especially the greatsword wielding one, was supposed to be the AoE version of a power revenant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkai.4692 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Legion.9617 said: Vindicator always has access to support skills - not saying that a DPS oriented vindicator is strong at supporting but it does have access to it. Also remember that vindicator, especially the greatsword wielding one, was supposed to be the AoE version of a power revenant. So does every single other profession with free access to their utility skills. Equip support lose damage. But we have to swap out our entire utility set for some minor support worthless on full beserk vindicator. And healing vindicator does not exist because vindicator cannot provide usefull boons. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Surprise surprise, two dodges doesn't fix the class! Who knew!? Definitely not the rev users with hundreds of hours on the spec that have been telling Anet what the spec needs for months. While lots of people complained about the limited dodging, these people generally were not spending time actually learning the spec. The ones who did (like me) all know that two dodges doesn't matter because the spec still doesn't do enough damage and the support options it gives are bad. Vindicator will continue to be mid tier trash in PvE, not surprising in the least Also LOL the dodge was SO GOOD in PvP that it actually had to be nerfed multiple times?? But then they split the dodge anyway? lmao Edited October 4, 2022 by LucianTheAngelic.7054 3 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vekkth.5206 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Absolutely dislike the change. It felt great to slambomb, it did fit nicely into rotation. Now it feels like you are a bouncing rabbit. 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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