Eod maps are Atrociously Optimized.

[Gehenna.3625]

3 hours ago, Zephire.8049 said:

Thanks for the reply. The "funny" thing is I actually play on desktop and the only reason I use integrated graphics is because my GPU died a bit over a month ago, which is why I know it's not just the CPU that's an issue. I was able to play EoD just fine up until my card died and only after did EoD start causing such issues (that I noticed anyway—I wasn't actively monitoring before it died) even though my integrated graphics actually have much more memory than my old GPU (2GB vs 8GB).

If it were purely CPU related—or any other component—I would have expected there to be issues from the start, but as they only happened when my GPU died, I can only conclude it's either a flaw with how the game pulls info from the GPU or a GPU-CPU hybrid issue as integrated graphics do put more load on the CPU.

It also means if I met the minimum specs before I should still meet them now, but I don't even though my integrated graphics are listed as the minimum requirement. If I didn't meet the base requirement I wouldn't complain, but I do. So either Anet lied about base requirements, "minimum specs" is being treated like a technicality in that technically the game will load even if you can't do much, or there's a serious issue (e.g. memory leak) that higher specs can compensate for but get the more obvious faster the fewer resources you have to spare.

yeah as someone else pointed out your mobo has a 1200 socket, so the 2.9Ghz is the base and not the max setting of your CPU. But you really need to replace your GFX card as soon as you're able to hehe. Personally I have an i7 11700K CPU that starts at 3.6 Ghz base. They tend to make a low base and a high base and for gaming I feel that the higher base is better somehow. The cards with the lower base also use less power but I think they might not manage the CPU load of an MMO than the ones with the higher base. Just my opinion there.

But yeah, Anet posting different requirements on different places is really not a good moment for them, let's say.

[Zephire.8049]

5 hours ago, Gehenna.3625 said:

yeah as someone else pointed out your mobo has a 1200 socket, so the 2.9Ghz is the base and not the max setting of your CPU. But you really need to replace your GFX card as soon as you're able to hehe. Personally I have an i7 11700K CPU that starts at 3.6 Ghz base. They tend to make a low base and a high base and for gaming I feel that the higher base is better somehow. The cards with the lower base also use less power but I think they might not manage the CPU load of an MMO than the ones with the higher base. Just my opinion there.

But yeah, Anet posting different requirements on different places is really not a good moment for them, let's say.

Unfortunately I have yet to have a spare ~$500-$600 for a new GPU + adapters.

I'm fine with a game not looking pretty if I'm scraping the minimum requirements, but minimum requirements should mean playable, not "You can load in but your computer will freak out if you move the camera". I've played other games either having the minimum (or below minimum, whoops) specs and still been able to play the game, or it tells me from the start I can't play in which case that's on me for not reading or trying to press my luck. But EoD is one of the few I've come across where I meet the requirements but the game is still unplayable in the technical sense.

There's some really weird optimization (or lack thereof) in EoD and it would behoove them to either fix it or up the minimum requirements for EoD if they're not going to prioritize fixing it.

[Angoril.2179]

16 hours ago, Zephire.8049 said:

even though my integrated graphics actually have much more memory than my old GPU (2GB vs 8GB).

iGPUs, whether Intel or AMD, don't have any VRAM of their own. They instead use system Ram which other than being slower, leaves the rest of the system with a smaller amount to work with. On top of that, Intel iGPUs, unlike the ones found on AMD CPUs are quite bad to say the least. 

 

There's not much that can be done other than buying a new GPU. I don't know what kind of games you play other than GW2 but unless you play newer AAA titles, there's no need to overspend on a GPU. If 1080 is your resolution of choice, a RX6600 or even a used RTX 2060 are more than enough. 

[Witch of Steam.5138]

All you people talking about The Equip people have are Missing the point by so much you're in different Time Zones from the location of the Point. 

The Point is : There are known, Now documented, Memory leaks and Optimization Problems of a large scale In the Game 

The Point Is Not : people have bad PC's or Wrong hardware. 

[Izzy.2951]

Indeed, devs should look into EoD maps cos they are way too demading in performance. And idk why, because the population cap is lower and maps like Shing jea or Echovald doesnt are kinda similar in size and assets to other maps.

[Andy.5981]

Question to any GW2 Developer reading this (or indeed anyone who designs games/graphics/maps). Why is there so much hidden under the map surface of GW2? Sometimes you can fall through the surface and see large areas and blocks of scenery extending far below the "ground" level of the map.

Are these parts still rendered when "invisible" from the surface? I presume they've already been loaded into memory? Can they not be "cut" and removed from the game data? Is this partly the cause of the problem that the players are experiencing?

(Apologies if I'm using simplistic terminology, I'm not a programmer).

Edited November 17, 2022 by Andy.5981

[ugrakarma.9416]

Since the original post was infested with trolls, and ppl with no knowledge or cliches("upgrade your PC"), im opening a new post.

 

The mysterious memory leak and infinite memory loading seems related to cheap USB hub, where i connected Mouse and Keyboard. 

 

Once i get rid of the USB hub and used direct connections the EOD maps seems "smooth" now.

 

How i dived into this? theres delay my keyboard input in other applications, which is strange even in win98 era.

 

My motherboard was a bit old, and going crazy for some reason with the some generic made in china USB hub, i think theres no difference, on original post there ppl with top tier stuff with same problem.