Rifle in sPvP

[Greyrat.2378]

Any tips/ideas how to be at least slightly relevant with rifle in sPvP?

I've been fiddling with zerk rifle build in unranked but it seems so fragile when I get focused and even damage is not great (I guess I might be doing something wrong or does the rifle really suck pee pee that badly?).

In general it feels more like "deadeye from wish.com" version 
edit: also I find it quite difficult to ramp up adrenaline with rifle compared to melee builds on warr where I can circumvent it by using head butt.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Greyrat.2378

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

1. Don't
2. If you do anyway, then go full Berserker/scholar runes, Arms 2/2/1, Disc 1/3/3, Bers 3/1/1 with full signets. Shoot with AA, pop all signets, F1 F2->Gunflame -> volley.
3. But don't do it.
4. You'd get more use out of it with Leg Specialist and a somewhat coordinated partner/team. Immob a high value target, put 22 stacks of on them, and volley them while the rest of your team spikes the target.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Lan Deathrider.5910
Typo, still getting used to Berserk being back on F2.

[Greyrat.2378]

I see.
Yeah I've figured out that I would probaly grief my team by using rifle unless someone else can peel for me, and even then it does not feel good to play at all compared to hammer or greatsword as zerker.

Thanks for the tip tho. :)

Edited November 1, 2022 by Greyrat.2378

[Hotride.2187]

Play engineer or deadeye 🙂 Thats rifle in pvp.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

1 hour ago, Greyrat.2378 said:

I see.
Yeah I've figured out that I would probaly grief my team by using rifle unless someone else can peel for me, and even then it does not feel good to play at all compared to hammer or greatsword as zerker.

Thanks for the tip tho. 🙂

It only has use with a Meme 1-Shot build that will only work to a point, or to 'support' your team in locking down a target, applying LOTS of vulnerability on them, and assisting in the spike.

I know, hearing the words rifle and support in the same sentence makes ZERO sense on a warrior, but that is the only non-grieving playstyle I've found with it, but it requires awareness/coordination from your team to capitalize on.

It has use in WvW roaming with a Axe/Axe or GS pairing but isn't that good there for DPS.

Cele on Rifle though is really good at setting up spikes for other players to down the target.

[Lonecap.4105]

It can work.. but you need to have supernatural map awareness, you need to keep tiptoe between 1200-1500 range, and only melee with rampage to secure kills. Make sure you kill kitten before it kills you. And don’t miss.

[Potato Slayer.3107]

Gunflame berserker used to be a thing in wvw with interupt sigils, until they changed the piercing and damage on it. Other than that rifle isnt relevant in other builds or modes. 

[Verdict is Vengence.6912]

The only one I made work is the rifle sniper with all traits and skills for damage, leaning heavily on Killshot. It's a good plus 1 build to turn the tide of a fight. The only problem is that you die when focused.

Greatsword is a great mobility tool and good for cleave damage on downs.

Other than pure damage that'll make mothers cry, any other rifle build I tried wasn't good.

edit: Just a disclaimer, I could only find success with the sniper rifle warrior up to gold. In platinum, I got eaten.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Verdict is Vengence.6912

[Alexe.3975]

Do yourself a favor and don't. I am a nub still learning the ropes while i still tested it for a month. I can say i lost every fight i plaid on this rifle warrior in gvg/pvp in 1v1. I had fun being a might dispenser with rifle for the entire gvg team tho, was fun but boring after a while. And going that route makes your dps even lower. There i could "help" making some kills by letting holo/revernant and other meta classes that do 90% of raid dmg while providing better buffing, more survivability like they have entire dps/tank/heal in one class.

Now what i have encountered:

1. I see mesmers with light armor and lower hp than me that i barely do dmg to them on top of being able to spam illusions and kill me in seconds.
2. Revernant/guardians they overheal your every burst while staying afk not dodging just using their dps abilities and burst you down instead.
3. Necros same as with guardians/revernant your bullets just heals them. When they eat enough bullets they enrage with their second hp bar runnin after you while your entire bar is filled with debuffs. They wear light but they as tanky as main tanks in other mmorpgs in this game vs your dps.
4. Engi you feel you do dmg to them but their mech+ weapon out dps you while they have more aces in their sleeves vs you. If it's scrapper or holo then good luck doing something, anything at all.
5. Thief while you do dmg to them and feel you gonna win. They there at one point then they are not, gl finding them.
6. Ranger same as with engi+pet they just overdps you even if they have same surv as you. They have an extra pet that does dmg than you. So they win the fight.
7. Elementalist, haven't encountered that many in pvp or they were just downed a lot by other people than me to see them. If you have issues with revernant/guardians because their self heal and dps. ele have same kit heal+dps while you have half dps and 0 heal

With my rant over imma delete my rifle warrior. Not gonna touch one even if they improve the melee side of it to be on par with other op classes. xD