Silent.6137 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Every time I go to New Kaineng, the music on the loading screen has been bugging me because it sounds so familiar. Listen to the opening few notes and compare it to this classic. Guild Wars 2 End of Dragons (from 0:00 to 0:08)vs Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (from 0:00 to 0:03). Play GW2 at double speed or Summer at 1/2 speed. What do you think? End of Dragons (mp3- trimmed) vs Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (mp3-trimmed) Edited November 18, 2022 by Silent.6137 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arianth Moonlight.6453 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 not even close. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 That is a real strech right there. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said: That is a real strech right there. I'm just talking about the first 7 notes. Play Summer Kisses at 1/2 speed. Just those initial notes to about 7 secs in for EoD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Silent.6137 said: I'm just talking about the first 7 notes. Play Summer Kisses at 1/2 speed. Just those initial notes to about 7 secs in for EoD. If by similar you mean they both have afew notes at the start then yea it is but thats where it ends. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Although it's somewhat similar the first few seconds, if you actually listen to it, it's different enough to not be the same. If you're implying that the composers of the soundtrack were inspired by Elvis or plagiarized it, I doubt it. As they have said it's inspired by Korean music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentMoore.9453 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Seems well within the normal 'sounds like' range for music. For example, EoD's opening wind instrument always reminds me of Lugia's Theme. They're not at all the same piece, just familiar because that's how sounds be. This is also how excellent mashup songs get made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Freya.9075 said: Although it's somewhat similar the first few seconds, if you actually listen to it, it's different enough to not be the same. If you're implying that the composers of the soundtrack were inspired by Elvis or plagiarized it, I doubt it. As they have said it's inspired by Korean music. I'm not suggesting that the music was plagiarized. However, often subconciously and unintentionally, music you heard when you were growing up may have some influence. The song was very popular back then and has been covered and translated especially into Chinese. It's not that farfetched that the composer had heard some of the Chinese version but attributed it to Korean instead. An instrumental piece: Richard Clyderman. That few opening bars had been bugging me every time I loaded onto New Kaineng;s map ever since EoD's release and I just couldn't placed the song. Until today when I used the Google app to locate the song. Edited November 18, 2022 by Silent.6137 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Coincidences happen, some parts of songs may sound samey. Also happens to stuff like: Phil Collins – Another Day In Paradise WoW – Arthas, My Son / Invincible Edited November 18, 2022 by Raknar.4735 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite.5389 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I’ll just leave this here: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) If it's just 4 or 5 chords, of course lots of music will be similar. It's when the sequence gets longer that it really become noticeable. I've isolated the part that really stood out for me: End of Dragons (mp3- trimmed) vs Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (mp3-trimmed) Maybe I'm the only one who hears this but to me it sounds so distinctive that it totally grab my attention when I first heard it. And ever since then it has always made me wonder why it sounded so familiar. Edited November 19, 2022 by Silent.6137 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Murtor.7253 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Tengu Village vs. Kandorean Temple. Even after so many years not playing Golden Sun, I noticed how similar these songs feel (at least for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Silent.6137 said: If it's just 4 or 5 chords, of course lots of music will be similar. It's when the sequence gets longer that it really become noticeable. I've isolated the part that really stood out for me: End of Dragons (mp3- trimmed) vs Summer Kisses, Winter Tears (mp3-trimmed) Maybe I'm the only one who hears this but to me it sounds so distinctive that it totally grab my attention when I first heard it. And ever since then it has always made me wonder why it sounded so familiar. Ok after listening to those they do sound similar, it was not the sections I were comparing at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 9:12 AM, Linken.6345 said: Ok after listening to those they do sound similar, it was not the sections I were comparing at all. Although it's not much, I'm glad you do hear some similarity. I was beginning to wonder if it was just me and I was just hearing what I wanted to hear. So, thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Human mind is very good at seeing patterns and similarities even when none exist. It's how our minds are wired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Hmm. I remember John Fogerty being sued for copyright infringement because he sounded too much like himself. I think he wound up winning because he played both songs on the stand for everyone to hear, and see, just how different they were. I seem to recall that Led Zepplin had a similar suit with another band claiming they stole their riff for Stairway to Heaven. Zepplin won that too. It's funny, to me, because one of the tavern songs in Wrath of the Righteous always leaves me humming the lead part to "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica. They're nothing alike, but I always end up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solemace.8427 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) I'll notice these a lot just small snippets of two songs that have the same note progression but at just different songs entirely. Just the intro to "To the Edge" and the 1:10 guitar riff on "a.m.3:21" Edited November 21, 2022 by solemace.8427 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 lol, asiatic "themes" borrow things from each other all time... i guess u are a young person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorudo.9054 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 i am more annoyed by the fact that the factions soundtrack sounded really japanese/chinese and it had a flow to it, GW2 version on the other hand sounds like a cheap collection of tracks any B-rank korean game would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ugrakarma.9416 said: lol, asiatic "themes" borrow things from each other all time... i guess u are a young person Whom exactly are you replying to? If it's me, I'd suggest you read the post agaim since neither of those comments are on the marks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite.5389 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 around 1:20 sounds a lot like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) On 11/18/2022 at 12:34 AM, Freya.9075 said: Although it's somewhat similar the first few seconds, if you actually listen to it, it's different enough to not be the same. If you're implying that the composers of the soundtrack were inspired by Elvis or plagiarized it, I doubt it. As they have said it's inspired by Korean music. Its not just inspired by Korean music, alot of it was live recorded with Korean musicians. That's why the whole expansion has such an natural, orchestral theme to it. This was done before in Dry Top and the Silverwastes, but most music since then has been digitally created, especially during the COVID era. Here's what Heart of Thorns would've sounded like if they had live recorded it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8nwiTNCcvE I kind of wish they had retroactively replaced the HoT music with this, but one can only dream right? Edited November 21, 2022 by Mariyuuna.6508 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronospere.8143 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 With soo many music writers these days chances are "few" notes are the same. There are only a certain amount of possibilities you can create in a single bar within a single melodic line. Still billions of possibilities though, but see how many songs have been published at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent.6137 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Cronospere.8143 said: With soo many music writers these days chances are "few" notes are the same. There are only a certain amount of possibilities you can create in a single bar within a single melodic line. Still billions of possibilities though, but see how many songs have been published at this point in time. There will always be the same few notes but when the sequence gets longer and longer, chances of the same notes appearing in the same order become smaller and smaller. 4 or 5 are very common. In this case, it's 7 notes on the opening sequence which was why it was so distinctive. Paricularly since it forms the basis of the chorus for one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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