Sansar.1302 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, zaswer.5246 said: condi is very powerfull both in pve and in small scale fights, ma8nly because some condis burst a lot against players, burn confu, and torment, and because its impossible to cleanse forever, but in big scale fights condi is almost useless as there sre tons of cleanses in area, light fields etc, so it is in a difficult position to balance Spot on, prefer a balance which condi is weak and not strong as now best would be ballanced but I can't se how it will be possible to do 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 9:31 AM, Sansar.1302 said: Been solo roaming for 10 years now and never have condi been so powerful. Not even when condition damage had 2x the dps it has today and things like cleansing sigil didnt exist? Hm. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Don't think it where 2x higer yes but then there where real 1 shot power builds to keep them at bay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 Hadd a long long figth now vs condi mesmer, lost and hadd no chance to win He did not eaven doge one maul only carried by this absude skill less condi canser. yes i could have fleed but this is a pvp mode and dont think any build should be hard carried in this way . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 Been figthting a condi specter and a catalyst , did a test in full minstel with all cleanses i could take ( ofc where never gonna win with minstrel stats ) and the most i could sustain where about 10 sec if i did not flee to reset. Condition damage is way to powerful I think 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: Been figthting a condi specter and a catalyst , did a test in full minstel with all cleanses i could take ( ofc where never gonna win with minstrel stats ) and the most i could sustain where about 10 sec if i did not flee to reset. Condition damage is way to powerful I think Spectres barely exist - you'll meet 10 full power stealth/teleport thieves for every condition thief - and the catalyst is 99.9% likely to use celestial and a combo sustain build instead of condi build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 You are rigth about the catalys it where indeed using celestial gear , but the damage where from conditions not power attacks 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyreva.1078 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Cele cata has a lot of power dmg, unless you are running minstrels, perma prot, max dmg mitigation ofc, but then again, condis are supposed to counter dumb facetank builds like that. Still, dieing on minstrel/max cleanse is a l2p issue. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 3 hours ago, UmbraNoctis.1907 said: Cele cata has a lot of power dmg, unless you are running minstrels, perma prot, max dmg mitigation ofc, but then again, condis are supposed to counter dumb facetank builds like that. Still, dieing on minstrel/max cleanse is a l2p issue. Where not expecting to win with minstrel gear as it where a test but with those stats and as many cleanses I possibly could take Living only 10 sec where way less than expected, about 80% of the damage where conditions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sansar.1302 said: Where not expecting to win with minstrel gear as it where a test but with those stats and as many cleanses I possibly could take Living only 10 sec where way less than expected, about 80% of the damage where conditions Well, that's what happens when you let the burn stacks tick. In the meantime, I met a lightning rod tempest that could take almost 20,000hp (at 3000 armor) in the span of a single knockdown about an hour ago. Edited December 11, 2022 by Dawdler.8521 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Well, that's what happens when you let the burn stacks tick. In the meantime, I met a lightning rod tempest that could take almost 20,000hp (at 3000 armor) in the span of a single knockdown about an hour ago. Yes , but had no cleanses left so it where imposible to not let them tic 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: Yes , but had no cleanses left so it where imposible to not let them tic 😞 Get more, play a class that has more. We are going in circles here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Mell.4873 said: Get more, play a class that has more. We are going in circles here. It where not possible to take more all utilety where cleanses and heal and elite skill to from traits and cleansing sigil on both weapon sets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell.4873 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Sansar.1302 said: It where not possible to take more all utilety where cleanses and heal and elite skill to from traits and cleansing sigil on both weapon sets Play Druid then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Reading what I read, I'd say that it might as well be an issue of timing. Having an utility bar full of condi cleanse and not being able to survive conditions don't mean that the condi burst is high but that the player is using it's ressources inefficiently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Uzumaki.1524 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) The duality of Condition Damage in WvW, OP in roaming, completely useless in zerg fights lol. Edited December 13, 2022 by Brandon Uzumaki.1524 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Brandon Uzumaki.1524 said: The duality of Condition Damage in WvW, OP in roaming, completely useless in zerg fights lol. This is true , it is almost like they should nerf grp cleanse AND condi dmg 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Condition damage is so overpowered and unfunn , 30% to 50 % to hig dmg Cant understand why they nerfed power damage a few years ago. Nerf it next phatch plz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaret.1450 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 the best way to fight against pvp/roaming condis would bw giving more access to the buffs that decrease condi dmg, while on zerg fights condis can be used if your whole scuad uses them and you make sure to make a long battle to wear off the oponent, as for mesmers and thiefs a more reliable way to balance the invis would be making skills that make them visible a bit better, a bit more range, some more duration to the spotted status when your invis are cancelled by the skill, and maybe even making those skills have an extra effect, like self protect, resistance or some similar buff. Basicaly a fight in skill, a thief would have to be carefull with the invis and how to aproach while you need to be carefull with the range to use the skill and make them visible and vulnerable, also it could help stop the invi stalling where they just hit, invi, run away, hit invi, run away and so on and so forth, if you have the posibility to use a skill to make them visible, gain some buff to retaliate and land a good cc or something you could win, it would be a matter of skill and not just going invi, apliing tons of dmg or condis and kill like nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansar.1302 Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 It is so boring with this condi meta in smal scale 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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