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Which class/weapon do you think should next get their AA sped up?


Sleepwalker.1398

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  1. 1. Which class/weapon do you think should next get their AA sped up?

    • Warrior - Rifle or Longbow
      8
    • Thief - Pistol or Shortbow
      3
    • Necro - Scepter or Staff
      6
    • Mesmer - Staff or Scepter
      4
    • Rev - Hammer
      3
    • Guardian - Staff or Scepter
      3
    • Ranger - Axe or Shortbow
      3
    • Other - Please specify
      9


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For WVW specifically? Ele staff auto on air attunement since the cleave damage is basically half: the full damage is only done to the first target.

I don't know rifle warrior would even be considered in WVW: there was a brief time of memeing on Gunflame berserker but it was never a serious spec.

Ranger axe is plenty fast, it isn't used because of projectile nature and the 2 targets. Short bow isn't used because it's a condi weapon that performs best with flanking.

Pistol and shortbow on thief are projectile so speeding them up does barely anything for the vast majority of players in group settings. I don't feel either are underperforming speed-wise.

Necro scepter and staff are not in need of adjustment. Neither is revenant hammer in WVW or scepter/staff on guardian.

Mesmer staff is a condi projectile weapon (it is reflected even if it isn't ap rojectile finisher) and will hardly ever see play in a group setting, the speed of it isn't the problem. One dodge mirage is what holds back chaos vortex. Scepter is mainly a defensive weapon with clone generation.

 

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How about we don't turn everything into braindead autoattack spam builds? Autoattacks are suposed to be fillers, not your main source of dmg.

 

On 12/7/2022 at 11:22 PM, Dawdler.8521 said:

Oh I dont know... 

MAYBE THE GOD kitten ENGINEER PISTOL THAT HAS AN AA 50% SLOWER THAN THE SPEED IT'S BEEN SPECIFIED AT SINCE THE RELEASE OF THE GAME 10 YEARS AGO.

It's similar with ranger's axe (and probably a bunch of others too) which has an even bigger disparity between tooltip and actual attack speed. Neither needs a buff tho, they just need to fix the tooltips.

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1 hour ago, UmbraNoctis.1907 said:

How about we don't turn everything into braindead autoattack spam builds? Autoattacks are suposed to be fillers, not your main source of dmg.

 

It's similar with ranger's axe (and probably a bunch of others too) which has an even bigger disparity between tooltip and actual attack speed. Neither needs a buff tho, they just need to fix the tooltips.

Except that the engie pistol has less than half the base damage, less than half the power modifier and a pathetic bleed that when included in the base damage barely reach the base damage of the axe. Its obviosly designed as a fast/low/short range damage attack but it has the speed of a longbow.

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19 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said:

Except that the engie pistol has less than half the base damage, less than half the power modifier and a pathetic bleed that when included in the base damage barely reach the base damage of the axe. Its obviosly designed as a fast/low/short range damage attack but it has the speed of a longbow.

Also can we talk about how absolutely ridiculous it is that the pistol auto just applies the tiny power damage portion of the skill in AoE and not the bleed?

The only reason it is that way is because we had a trait that made pistol skills pierce, so AoE bleed would have put out too much bleed if shot into a group of enemies. But that trait is gone for over 7 years already. Can we please make the bleed apply in AoE?!

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7 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

Warrior rifle AND longbow. Both of those AAs are painfully slow. Rifle needs a larger cast time reduction than LB however.

Longbow needs it's projectile speed increased because you will die of old age before the autoattack even reaches you.

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13 minutes ago, Ferus.3165 said:

Longbow needs it's projectile speed increased because you will die of old age before the autoattack even reaches you.

Well, yeah of course, but Rifle's AA is so weak that to make up for it the cast time needs to be much faster. LB would be able to put too much burning on the target if it is sped up too much.

To me Rifle needs a ~0.25s cast time, and LB AA needs 1/5s cast time and a 20% increase in the projectile speed. Alternatively for LB, a 50% increase in the projectile speed would also work.

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