Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 -An expansion with less content than last 2 expansions and still asking of total price of last 2 expansions. -Absolute busted and bloated and streamlined professionals created as eyecandy and meta definer so people have to buy them for stay relevant. -Absolute terrible story with lame villians with bad callbacks and fanservice -Mechanist -Throwing MMorpg's most important late game contents to trash for bringing absolute snore-fest strike missions. -Terrible Stardew Valley rip-off fishing mechanic. -No new content to PvP and WvW. -Since EoD release all they bring cycled content for fanboy to clap about. This is obvious this expansion doesn't make for improve to game.İts made for how much we can sell more with least effort.And still I refuse to buy this expansion.Unfortunatelly as a pvp player EoD's putrid classes made to pvp worse than ever.They are created this professions as power trip.And this season its obvious game running at autopilot. 9 1 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeivu.3615 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) The only mistakes were (Most of the) Elite Specs trying to force half baked ideas/unpopular weapon choices into play and not making fishing a legitimate profession like the other crafts. Edited January 2, 2023 by Zeivu.3615 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoSomatic.6728 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Stardew Valley wasn't the first to have fishing and won't be the last. Showing my age but UO had fishing in it and it was a very popular aspect of the game and so many games added it to their mix. Not even saying UO was the first but they had it before WoW was created. A bunch of players find the mini game of Fishing to be relaxing and usually it can be fairly profitable. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -An expansion with less content than last 2 expansions and still asking of total price of last 2 expansions. Elaborate. As in how eaxactly did you measure that to come up with this conclusion? 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Absolute busted and bloated and streamlined professionals created as eyecandy and meta definer so people have to buy them for stay relevant. Maybe, but pretty sure the previous expansions did the same, right? Not only that, but there's definitely nothing wrong with playing other especs, in some cases they simply outperform eod ones anyways. 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Absolute terrible story with lame villians with bad callbacks and fanservice Subjective, but feel free to elaborate. 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Mechanist I think it got more acceptable now, but the post rifle rework one sure was an abomination. 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Throwing MMorpg's most important late game contents to trash for bringing absolute snore-fest strike missions. CMs are k, so... not sure about this one either? Some might prefer the "sets" of bosses in the form of whole wings, but for me things like escorts or even just waiting for the npcs to stop talking (or move from point A to B) is an unnecessary filler/timewaster. How many times do I need to hear the same story? 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Since EoD release all they bring cycled content for fanboy to clap about. Even if true, what does it have to do with eod? 17 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: And still I refuse to buy this expansion. Ah, so when you were making "comparison of the amount of content" or talking about "strikes"... you were basically guessing? 10 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Inch Snails.7963 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PsychoSomatic.6728 said: Stardew Valley wasn't the first to have fishing and won't be the last. Showing my age but UO had fishing in it and it was a very popular aspect of the game and so many games added it to their mix. Not even saying UO was the first but they had it before WoW was created. A bunch of players find the mini game of Fishing to be relaxing and usually it can be fairly profitable. I don't think the OP's point was that EoD has fishing but that the mechanic is very similar to that of Stardew Valley. Edited January 2, 2023 by Nine Inch Snails.7963 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Sobx.1758 said: Elaborate. As in how eaxactly did you measure that to come up with this conclusion? Well its awkward even seeing this questiong but easy to answer.Old 2 expansions gave us new fractal,new raids ,new pvp maps ,more maps.And both of them cost 30 dollars while EoD cant even compare one of those and asking for 30 dollars.Dont even tell me raids and fractals isn't important. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captrowdy.9561 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 How do you come to this conclusion without playing it? 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoSomatic.6728 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I have played fishing in several games. Honestly there are only a few different ways to do it and still keep in a way that many people can play it and enjoy it. The idea is not to make it a hard way to play but rather a rather relaxing way. Stardew wasn't the first to do it but so many non MMO players as well as MMO players and got to enjoy fishing there so they feel that Stardew was the one that all games feel they need to copy. Simply they were adding fishing because other MMO's had it and it was probably something they overlooked and it helps keep gamers playing and staying in the game. Meaning when you have done all the things in the game so you aren't sure what to do... FISH! It allows you to talk to guildes while still doing stuff. I have fished in almost any game I have played so I can say it wasn't simply a copy. Almost all fishing in MMO's and even games where fishing isn't the main aspect all feel similar in nature. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, captrowdy.9561 said: How do you come to this conclusion without playing it? Because after giving to money do you think our opinion make any value? As a pvp player Im seeing effect of EoD .You arent here when all pve content dominated by mechanists?They are so bloated and ez to play they make old professions like well balanced breakfast. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, PsychoSomatic.6728 said: I have played fishing in several games. Honestly there are only a few different ways to do it and still keep in a way that many people can play it and enjoy it. The idea is not to make it a hard way to play but rather a rather relaxing way. Stardew wasn't the first to do it but so many non MMO players as well as MMO players and got to enjoy fishing there so they feel that Stardew was the one that all games feel they need to copy. Simply they were adding fishing because other MMO's had it and it was probably something they overlooked and it helps keep gamers playing and staying in the game. Meaning when you have done all the things in the game so you aren't sure what to do... FISH! It allows you to talk to guildes while still doing stuff. I have fished in almost any game I have played so I can say it wasn't simply a copy. Almost all fishing in MMO's and even games where fishing isn't the main aspect all feel similar in nature. There is many more mechanics of fishing than Stardew Valley.I recommend you play Warframe Spear fishing and then You will see how fishing of Gw 2 absolute terrible experience. 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Absolute busted and bloated and streamlined professionals created as eyecandy and meta definer so people have to buy them for stay relevant. -Throwing MMorpg's most important late game contents to trash for bringing absolute snore-fest strike missions. -Since EoD release all they bring cycled content for fanboy to clap about. 1. "Eye candy" is the total opposite of how I would describe most of EoD's aesthetics. 2. The Strike Mission CMs are a lot of fun and actually my weekly highlight. 3. I consider the return of LWS1 a necessity and am glad they finally re-released it. (Also, neither a fan boy nor a fan girl.) Edited January 2, 2023 by Ashantara.8731 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: Because after giving to money do you think our opinion make any value? As a pvp player Im seeing effect of EoD . Since for some reason you didn't bother addressing it in your previous post: and you somehow think that wasn't the case for HoT/PoF especs when those expansions came out? Edited January 2, 2023 by Sobx.1758 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Ashantara.8731 said: 1. "Eye candy" is the total opposite of how I would describe EoD's unpleasant aesthetics. 2. The Strike Mission CMs are a lot of fun and actually my weekly highlight. 3. I considered the return of LWS1 a necessity and am glad they finally re-released it. Before even release they were obvious they care flashiness of skills and power trip more than making a balanced character.Especially anime aestetic bladesworn with immune slides.Necromancers with flashy aoe skills.Ditching mirage's theme for throwing kunais.İts classic marketing strategy.Show people to shiny fireworkds for hide to uncomplete building. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captrowdy.9561 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: Because after giving to money do you think our opinion make any value? As a pvp player Im seeing effect of EoD .You arent here when all pve content dominated by mechanists?They are so bloated and ez to play they make old professions like well balanced breakfast. Ya that got nerfed. There’s still plenty of other broken non eod builds in pvp. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Well hot cost 50 bucks on release and pof 30 so not sure how EoD was more costly then both. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, captrowdy.9561 said: Ya that got nerfed. There’s still plenty of other broken non eod builds in pvp. *cough* Catalyst *cough* 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul.9651 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Carnage.6751 said: -Throwing MMorpg's most important late game contents to trash for bringing absolute snore-fest strike missions. And it sucks.. plenty of people still are waitting for a new raid wing or a fractal.. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vares.8457 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 wow so much crying 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: And people defending This decision by " But we are seeing same story over and over".YES because they write a story for this Raids and Fractals .They design Different creatures and boss for raids.Otherhand Strikes have same models from Icebrood story or open world.Two strike mission have İce construction as boss and this people defending this Low effort content.I don't wanna use "S" word but this people definitely acting like it. Ah, so you did read that, you've just decided to avoid responding to it. Now you're using part of what I said out of context for some reason. Here's what was being said there though: CMs are k, so... not sure about this one either? Some might prefer the "sets" of bosses in the form of whole wings, but for me things like escorts or even just waiting for the npcs to stop talking (or move from point A to B) is an unnecessary filler/timewaster. How many times do I need to hear the same story? So yes, I am defending it since you're claiming "they trashed endgame pve content" while avoiding the release of cm strikes which easly fit within the raid encounter design while scrapping the escort snoozefest and waiting for npcs to walk to the next boss. 9 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: Two strike mission have İce construction as boss and this people defending this Low effort content. Those strikes have nothing to do with EoD though? Edited January 2, 2023 by Sobx.1758 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Min.5834 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) TC is just being extreme. IMO, EoD may not be the best (PoF is 🏆), the expansion is a good one. I like everything in it except for fishing. Lots of planning, dedications and diversities have been put into every map creating a very impressive and detailed yet different environments. The elites are well done too. I'll give it a 7/10. Edited January 2, 2023 by Min Min.9368 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lezbefriends.7516 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: ALSO İf you are simple minded consumers like this.Dont worry A-net will continue to provide you less and less and ask same money. Let's see how long you will keep continue to nodding.Yeah keep spamming confused emoji for prove you are too naive for ugly truth. Literally all MMOs are offering less for more money over time. This is because their main focus of improvement is graphics. I believe the only reason ANet did this though, is because they were forced to rush out the expansion last minute, as they weren’t planning on making one. (Hint: the players demanded one.) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya.9075 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 What does this remind me of hmmmm 🤔 oh yes. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumboJumbo.1308 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Then don't buy eod... Also you've identified problems with the expansion but haven't offered any solutions. What's the point of this post? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage.6751 Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 Y 1 minute ago, Sobx.1758 said: Ah, so you did read that, you've just decided to avoid responding to it. Now you're using part of what I said out of context for some reason. Here's what was being said there though: CMs are k, so... not sure about this one either? Some might prefer the "sets" of bosses in the form of whole wings, but for me things like escorts or even just waiting for the npcs to stop talking (or move from point A to B) is an unnecessary filler/timewaster. How many times do I need to hear the same story? So yes, I am defending it since you're claiming "they trashed endgame pve content" while acoiding the release of cm strikes which easly fit within the raid encounter design while avoiding the snoozefest of the escorts and waiting for npcs to walk to the next boss. You dismissing all raids because Wing 3 escort mission while defending same lazy copy paste models and call it content.You talking about filler content while they make this content just for make people mindlessly grind for a day and all you get is chests with Trash items .Do you really think this strike bosses have better mechanics and fights than Raids boss?Really piling on boss and killin in 1 min and moving to next one definitely exciting content. 😄 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Carnage.6751 said: You dismissing all raids because Wing 3 escort mission while defending same lazy copy paste models and call it content.You talking about filler content while they make this content just for make people mindlessly grind for a day and all you get is chests with Trash items .Do you really think this strike bosses have better mechanics and fights than Raids boss?Really piling on boss and killin in 1 min and moving to next one definitely exciting content. 😄 At no point I've "dismissed all raids", bad strawman attempt and you still said nothing about eod cm strikes. But then again, what can you say about them? You didn't play them and all you keep repeating talks about regular IBS(!) strikes in the thread you attempt complaining about EoD. 🤦♂️ Edited January 2, 2023 by Sobx.1758 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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