Virt sPVP builds?

[Javonovich.5280]

Hi all,

 

For those of you using virt in spvp, I'm wondering what builds you've had some success with. Virt builds do not seem to be all that well described or all that diverse.

 

I've been using this with the most success: https://hardstuck.gg/gw2/builds/mesmer/virtuoso/ I just swap out the sinister for carrion for more survivability, and I like Signet of Illusions more than Blade Renewal. This is similar to what's on meta battle with the exception of some different rune/sigil choices: https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Virtuoso_-_Condition_Signet_Virtuoso

 

I've tried using Chaos instead of insp, but I tend to find myself a pretty easy target. It's also hard to give up the synergy between Blurred Inscriptions and Master of Fragmentation.

 

Any advice?

[Vinny.7260]

Cracks knuckles.

Condi Virtuoso:

• Chaos: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiwAs+ZlFwuYqsEGKeOXvxKA-zZoKjMTh6rA5HAA
  • You can swap out Confusion sigils for Cleansing to give up some duration for more cleanse.
• Dueling: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiABsqx/lFwuYqsEGKWOXvxKA-zZoKjMTherA5HAA
  • You can drop Traveler for Lynx for more damage and less duration (coin toss on if it's worth it).

Power Virtuoso:

• Inspiration: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiABgqx3lFwuYqsEGKmWXpxKA-zZIPkMlCBMCCZB44BA
  • You can swap Ether Feast for Signet of Ether for more passive sustain.
  • You can also swap Dagger for Scepter for more defense and less susceptibility to projectile hate.
• Domination: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiABgqx3lFwuYqsEGKOOXpxKA-zZIPkMlC9qACYE44BA
  • You can swap Ether Feast for Signet of Ether for more passive sustain.
  • You can also swap Rending Shatter for Bountiful Blades and swap Dagger/Pistol to Greatsword and Sword/Focus to Sword/Pistol.

You can swap Mass Invisibility to Signet of Humility on all builds except Condi Chaos Virtuoso.

 

These builds have all pulled lots of weight for me in different ways. Just less-so right now due to Catalyst and Tempest's current reign with Magnetic Aura.

 

Edit: I avoid using Blurred Inscriptions because it removes our ability to Contribute to Node Points when using Distortion. Instead I use the second utility to fill in my gaps and generate additional pressure. Illusionary Inspiration provides lots of healing per dodge, especially with Signet of Ether equipped, and reduces our downtime on providing node contribution.

 

Hope this helps!

Edited January 5, 2023 by Vinny.7260
Added additional information for my Inspiration build.

[Javonovich.5280]

25 minutes ago, Vinny.7260 said:

Cracks knuckles.

Condi Virtuoso:

• Chaos: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiwAs+ZlFwuYqsEGKeOXvxKA-zZoKjMTh6rA5HAA
  • You can swap out Confusion sigils for Cleansing to give up some duration for more cleanse.
• Dueling: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiABsqx/lFwuYqsEGKWOXvxKA-zZoKjMTherA5HAA
  • You can drop Traveler for Lynx for more damage and less duration (coin toss on if it's worth it).

Power Virtuoso:

• Inspiration: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiABgqx3lFwuYqsEGKmWXpxKA-zZIPkMlCBMCCZB44BA
  • You can swap Ether Feast for Signet of Ether for more passive sustain.
  • You can also swap Dagger for Scepter for more defense and less susceptibility to projectile hate.
• Domination: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiABgqx3lFwuYqsEGKOOXpxKA-zZIPkMlC9qACYE44BA
  • You can swap Ether Feast for Signet of Ether for more passive sustain.
  • You can also swap Rending Shatter for Bountiful Blades and swap Dagger/Pistol to Greatsword and Sword/Focus to Sword/Pistol.

You can swap Mass Invisibility to Signet of Humility on all builds except Condi Chaos Virtuoso.

 

These builds have all pulled lots of weight for me in different ways. Just less-so right now due to Catalyst and Tempest's current reign with Magnetic Aura.

 

Edit: I avoid using Blurred Inscriptions because it removes our ability to Contribute to Node Points when using Distortion. Instead I use the second utility to fill in my gaps and generate additional pressure. Illusionary Inspiration provides lots of healing per dodge, especially with Signet of Ether equipped, and reduces our downtime on providing node contribution.

 

Hope this helps!

 

This is immensely helpful! Thank you! On the condi builds, do you see any reason to go any ammy other than carrion? Also, do you have an opinion on power vs condi? For a while, I was thinking condi was dead with the last few patches, but I've actually been having more luck with condi than power for virt.

[Vinny.7260]

20 hours ago, Javonovich.5280 said:

This is immensely helpful! Thank you! On the condi builds, do you see any reason to go any ammy other than carrion? Also, do you have an opinion on power vs condi? For a while, I was thinking condi was dead with the last few patches, but I've actually been having more luck with condi than power for virt.

 

Carrion is the most damage available while also providing sustain. Wizard you give up 200 Condition Damage to gain 100 Power and 500 Precision... And then you lose 4000 HP.

Sinister doesn't provide any benefit since you lose all your sustain to get some Precision.

1200 Condition Damage, 900 Power, 900 Vitality vs 1200 Condition Damage, 900 Power, 900 Precision.

1000 Condition Damage 1000 Power, 500 Vitality, 500 Precision.

Since Condition Mesmer (in general) has a weakness of awful resustain, you just maximize your health pool to last as long as possible. Inspiration helps with this, but you're typically better just going something like Chaos to prevent taking damage at all.

You also go Dueling for constant blinds, bleeding, and different damage prevention.

 

Virtuoso's biggest issue, IMO, is that Psychic Riposte is bugged and doesn't provide unblockable if you press ANY button before pressing a Bladesong when gaining the buff.

The other issue it has is that it has low mobility and isn't about moving around and more about sidenoding.

[godfat.2604]

47 minutes ago, Vinny.7260 said:

Virtuoso's biggest issue, IMO, is that Psychic Riposte is bugged and doesn't provide unblockable if you press ANY button before pressing a Bladesong when gaining the buff.

Huh, thank you! I have been wondering under what circumstance that it wouldn’t work, and so far I hadn’t figured it out, and it annoyed me a lot. I’ll keep this in mind. Knowing this will help a lot, so I can waste less opportunities.

Honestly, if this is the case, I would imagine it’s intended to work this way, just with poor wordings and the buff should immediately go away with any other skills, rather than lingering there to confuse people.

[Belze Intilie.8436]

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiwAw+ZlVwuYqMNGKeuXvxKA-zZoOkEUARKCyUK44BA

Edited March 14, 2023 by Belze Intilie.8436

[Javonovich.5280]

14 hours ago, Belze Intilie.8436 said:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiwAw+ZlVwuYqMNGKeuXvxKA-zZoOkEUARKCyUK44BA

I've messed with mimic + Blade Renewal. I'm struggling with condi builds, though. I feel like power is the way to go.

[Belze Intilie.8436]

Imo Chrono is the better choice for Power, but ofc thats a personal / playstyle choice. I switched Midnight for Mimic, because of the chrashes it caused (maybe?!) and fell in love with it. I dont want to miss the choice of double blade renewal (survival) or double blink for fast movement (combined with sword leap and Staff 2). Saved me a lot and imo the best utility skills we have on Virtu atm.

Not a lot enemys expect Mimic ^^

Edited March 15, 2023 by Belze Intilie.8436