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A legendary Macuahuitl!,

The maquahuitl predates the Aztecs. Tools made from obsidian fragments were used by some of the earliest Mesoamericans. Obsidian used in ceramic vessels has been found at Aztec sites. Obsidian cutting knives, sickles, scrapers, drills, razors, and arrow points have also been found. Several obsidian mines were close to the Aztec civilisations in the Valley of Mexico as well as in the mountains north of the valley. Among these were the Sierra de las Navajas (Razor Mountains), named after their obsidian deposits. Use of the maquahuitl as a weapon is attested from the 1st millennia CE. A Mayan carving at Chichen Itza shows a warrior holding a macuahuitl, depicted as a club having separate blades sticking out from each side. In a mural, a warrior holds a club with many blades on one side and one sharp point on the other, also a possible variant of the macuahuitl.

 

The macuahuitl was sharp enough to decapitate a man. According to an account by Bernal Díaz del Castillo, one of Hernán Cortés’s conquistadors, it could even decapitate a horse.

 

According to Ross Hassig, the last authentic macuahuitl was destroyed in 1884 in a fire in the Real Armería in Madrid, where it was housed beside the last tepoztopilli. According to Marco Cervera Obregón, there is supposed to be at least one macuahuitl in a Museo Nacional de Antropología warehouse, but it is possibly lost.

No actual maquahuitl specimens remain and the present knowledge of them comes from contemporaneous accounts and illustrations that date to the 16th century and earlier.

 

According to National School of Anthropology and History (ENAH) archaeologist Marco Cervera Obregón, there were two versions of this weapon: The macuahuitl, about 70 to 80 centimetres (28 to 31 in) long with six to eight blades on each side; and the mācuāhuitzōctli, a smaller club about 50 centimetres (20 in) long with only four obsidian blades.

 

So, yea, a Legendary Macuahuitl make sense to me...

 

What you guys think?

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7 hours ago, Danikat.8537 said:

I think it's an interesting weapon, but you're far more likely to see it as a mace skin than a new weapon type and I don't think an authentic one would fit Anet's criteria for legendaries, which always have a lot of effects around them.

I did a little bit more reading, you are correct, a mace will be more suitable than a sword since Aztecs never use swords.  

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4 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said:

I been wanting a Kanabo for a mace for a long time and this kinda looks like a flat version of one, hehe, so I'd enjoy it. 

yea, hahaha, it looks almost the same, your look like it could give lots of agony/torment for the looks of it, while mine can cause bleeding/massive hemorrhage... lol

 

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2 minutes ago, Dadnir.5038 said:

Why not? It's just missing some particle effects

I don't see the dozen-and-a-half other legendaries to accompany this one.
Aztecs are not in the game.
Aztec-like (well, generically mezo-american) weapon designs are already present, including a legendary.
If you wanted something like this in the game, a one-off skin is more likely than a *legendary*.

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On 1/8/2023 at 12:23 PM, Tanker.9802 said:

A legendary Macuahuitl!,

The maquahuitl predates the Aztecs. Tools made from obsidian fragments were used by some of the earliest Mesoamericans. Obsidian used in ceramic vessels has been found at Aztec sites. Obsidian cutting knives, sickles, scrapers, drills, razors, and arrow points have also been found. Several obsidian mines were close to the Aztec civilisations in the Valley of Mexico as well as in the mountains north of the valley. Among these were the Sierra de las Navajas (Razor Mountains), named after their obsidian deposits. Use of the maquahuitl as a weapon is attested from the 1st millennia CE. A Mayan carving at Chichen Itza shows a warrior holding a macuahuitl, depicted as a club having separate blades sticking out from each side. In a mural, a warrior holds a club with many blades on one side and one sharp point on the other, also a possible variant of the macuahuitl.

 

The macuahuitl was sharp enough to decapitate a man. According to an account by Bernal Díaz del Castillo, one of Hernán Cortés’s conquistadors, it could even decapitate a horse.

 

According to Ross Hassig, the last authentic macuahuitl was destroyed in 1884 in a fire in the Real Armería in Madrid, where it was housed beside the last tepoztopilli. According to Marco Cervera Obregón, there is supposed to be at least one macuahuitl in a Museo Nacional de Antropología warehouse, but it is possibly lost.

No actual maquahuitl specimens remain and the present knowledge of them comes from contemporaneous accounts and illustrations that date to the 16th century and earlier.

 

According to National School of Anthropology and History (ENAH) archaeologist Marco Cervera Obregón, there were two versions of this weapon: The macuahuitl, about 70 to 80 centimetres (28 to 31 in) long with six to eight blades on each side; and the mācuāhuitzōctli, a smaller club about 50 centimetres (20 in) long with only four obsidian blades.

 

So, yea, a Legendary Macuahuitl make sense to me...

 

What you guys think?

Macuahuitl

 

I can't believe I forgot this type of weaponry.  My brother and I, over the holidays, were talking about the evolution of tools around the time of kitten erectus, neanderthals, and denesovans.  One thing I do know is that we, kitten sapiens, exist because kitten erectus was able to eradicate all other species of humans to extinction through the use of tools specifically for warfare.  

I posited that axes were one of the earliest weapons after the pointy stick (spear).  Basically a sharp rock tied to a stick.  This is a much more refined version of "sharp rock on a stick" that predates the sword (if I understand you're post correctly).

Thanks for pointing me to more things to read!

 

As for the topic on hand, I am all for incorporating as many different types of weapons and aesthetics into the game.  I certainly doubt that it will be a new weapon type, but a new weapon model for an existing weapon type would be awesome.

There's plenty of historical weapons from around the world to incorporate into the game, such as a two-handed falchion.

 

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8 hours ago, Rogue.8235 said:

 

I can't believe I forgot this type of weaponry.  My brother and I, over the holidays, were talking about the evolution of tools around the time of kitten erectus, neanderthals, and denesovans.  One thing I do know is that we, kitten sapiens, exist because kitten erectus was able to eradicate all other species of humans to extinction through the use of tools specifically for warfare.  

I posited that axes were one of the earliest weapons after the pointy stick (spear).  Basically a sharp rock tied to a stick.  This is a much more refined version of "sharp rock on a stick" that predates the sword (if I understand you're post correctly).

Thanks for pointing me to more things to read!

 

As for the topic on hand, I am all for incorporating as many different types of weapons and aesthetics into the game.  I certainly doubt that it will be a new weapon type, but a new weapon model for an existing weapon type would be awesome.

There's plenty of historical weapons from around the world to incorporate into the game, such as a two-handed falchion.

 

First, I'm amused at what the censor did to your post. Kitten erectus and kitten sapiens must be stages of charr evolution. 😛

 

More seriously... I'm not sure the macuahuitl is strictly unique to the mesoamerican region, but it does seem to be off the 'normal' track of weapon evolution. I suspect it's because they achieved a fairly high level of civilisation and craftsmanship while still having relatively primitive metalworking. Macuahuitls require a higher level of craftsmanship than stone axes and spears, and most civilisations that have reached that level of craftsmanship are probably already starting to experiment with copper or even bronze blades, while the various mesoamerican civilisations appear to have developed advanced enough civilisations to allow that sort of specialisation without much in the way of metallurgy - hence the presence of nonmetal sword substitutes.

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