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Well T1 NA, the tier with the most active servers, has taken a huge hit in play in recent weeks.  Similarly, T2 is also somewhat muted because people don't want to be in T1.  So basically half the servers in NA, which comprise more than half of the population of potential NA WvWers, either aren't playing, or are playing less.

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41 minutes ago, SFShinigami.1572 said:

Well T1 NA, the tier with the most active servers, has taken a huge hit in play in recent weeks.  Similarly, T2 is also somewhat muted because people don't want to be in T1.  So basically half the servers in NA, which comprise more than half of the population of potential NA WvWers, either aren't playing, or are playing less.

It was a drop through all tiers, did Mag scare the T3/4 servers too? Don't think it was a seasonal population drop, a big drop across the board like that tends to point to them moving the threshold lines for each level. The only people really sitting out is BG and SoS lately cause of T1, doesn't explain why T3/4 servers dropped also.

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No.

 

There was no ANet intervention at all. This is still the same stupid algorithm failing again.

 

How it works is this. The population rating of each server is judged relative to the #1 server. No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here) would be 100%-75% (of the #1 server's activity) is "full", 75%-50% is "very high", 50%-25% is "high", and 25%-0% is "medium" (there is no "low" for various reasons, some financial some psychological).

 

What happened was Maguuma opened up a few weeks ago and hundreds of people transferred in. These population ratings don't change on a minute by minute basis, they are based on a period of time.

 

Now, these people have factored in to the activity tracker. And Maguuma, already the most populated server in the game, skyrocketed even higher. WAY higher.

 

Servers who were at 80% of its activity are now at 70%. Those at 55% are now at 45%. Etc.

 

ANet did nothing. You people should know by now there is no person paying any attention to the populations (or anything else in WvW) at all. They rely 100% on their failing algorithm to do their work for them. And now this has happened. Maguuma is so big that no other server can even get into the same population bracket as them.

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9 minutes ago, Tryfan.1457 said:

What happened was Maguuma opened up a few weeks ago and hundreds of people transferred in. These population ratings don't change on a minute by minute basis, they are based on a period of time.

And yet a server like BG opens and closes in a matter of hours...

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10 minutes ago, Tryfan.1457 said:

No.

 

There was no ANet intervention at all. This is still the same stupid algorithm failing again.

 

How it works is this. The population rating of each server is judged relative to the #1 server. No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here) would be 100%-75% (of the #1 server's activity) is "full", 75%-50% is "very high", 50%-25% is "high", and 25%-0% is "medium" (there is no "low" for various reasons, some financial some psychological).

 

What happened was Maguuma opened up a few weeks ago and hundreds of people transferred in. These population ratings don't change on a minute by minute basis, they are based on a period of time.

 

Now, these people have factored in to the activity tracker. And Maguuma, already the most populated server in the game, skyrocketed even higher. WAY higher.

 

Servers who were at 80% of its activity are now at 70%. Those at 55% are now at 45%. Etc.

 

ANet did nothing. You people should know by now there is no person paying any attention to the populations (or anything else in WvW) at all. They rely 100% on their failing algorithm to do their work for them. And now this has happened. Maguuma is so big that no other server can even get into the same population bracket as them.


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20 minutes ago, Xenesis.6389 said:

And yet a server like BG opens and closes in a matter of hours...

The API reporting can be funky. I have seen BG report weekly three straight weeks of going up a population bracket, despite already being at "full" every single time including before it started. Sometimes the updates don't seem to include every server, too - a month ago only six servers reported at all. Not that the others didn't change, they didn't have any update period.

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1 hour ago, Logan.4796 said:

No. Every server opened up for transfers other than Mag so Mag could have better competition.

I'm being serious. Pretty sure this is an exact reason why

As much as you love patting yourself on the back. That's not what changed. Servers like Tarnished Coast have been full for months and dropped 2 tiers over the last 2 weeks. Servers that were very high have dropped to medium. Those servers aren't going to suddenly be "competition" for mag.

This was more than likely caused by a change in metrics for how they measure active players in WvW.

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58 minutes ago, Graymatter.4723 said:

As much as you love patting yourself on the back.


That wasn't very nice. Sorry for being wrong. ☹️

But I think

 

2 hours ago, Tryfan.1457 said:

No.

 

There was no ANet intervention at all. This is still the same stupid algorithm failing again.

 

How it works is this. The population rating of each server is judged relative to the #1 server. No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here) would be 100%-75% (of the #1 server's activity) is "full", 75%-50% is "very high", 50%-25% is "high", and 25%-0% is "medium" (there is no "low" for various reasons, some financial some psychological).

 

What happened was Maguuma opened up a few weeks ago and hundreds of people transferred in. These population ratings don't change on a minute by minute basis, they are based on a period of time.

 

Now, these people have factored in to the activity tracker. And Maguuma, already the most populated server in the game, skyrocketed even higher. WAY higher.

 

Servers who were at 80% of its activity are now at 70%. Those at 55% are now at 45%. Etc.

 

ANet did nothing. You people should know by now there is no person paying any attention to the populations (or anything else in WvW) at all. They rely 100% on their failing algorithm to do their work for them. And now this has happened. Maguuma is so big that no other server can even get into the same population bracket as them.


Explains it properly

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17 minutes ago, Graymatter.4723 said:

It's a good thing that Tryfan.1457 knows exactly what the formula is when A/Net haven't told us the formula they used. But don't worry, take that as gospel if it makes you feel better.

Do NOT attempt to troll me. Don't attempt a strawman's argument with me.
 

6 hours ago, Tryfan.1457 said:

How it works is this. The population rating of each server is judged relative to the #1 server. No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here)

No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here)

(probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here)

probably not accurate

not accurate


Just... Stop it. Bad.... -slaps your hand-

Go to your bedroom and think about what you tried to do here.


 

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No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here)
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7 hours ago, Logan.4796 said:

No. Every server opened up for transfers other than Mag so Mag could have better competition.

I'm being serious. Pretty sure this is an exact reason why

You might want to stop and re read the devs posts on how they define the populations. They had taken the top most populated server and used it as a metric of full and then adjust everyone else form there to drive the populations to other servers. So where we are at is Mag is the new over populated server and they adjusted other servers based on Mag's numbers till they rebalance again. Again we don't have the numbers they used but this is the technique they used in the past. 

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19 minutes ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

You might want to stop and re read the devs posts on how they define the populations. They had taken the top most populated server and used it as a metric of full and then adjust everyone else form there to drive the populations to other servers. So where we are at is Mag is the new over populated server and they adjusted other servers based on Mag's numbers till they rebalance again. Again we don't have the numbers they used but this is the technique they used in the past. 

 

7 hours ago, Tryfan.1457 said:

No.

 

There was no ANet intervention at all. This is still the same stupid algorithm failing again.

 

How it works is this. The population rating of each server is judged relative to the #1 server. No one knows the exact percentages but a simple example (probably not accurate but gives the idea in action here) would be 100%-75% (of the #1 server's activity) is "full", 75%-50% is "very high", 50%-25% is "high", and 25%-0% is "medium" (there is no "low" for various reasons, some financial some psychological).

 

What happened was Maguuma opened up a few weeks ago and hundreds of people transferred in. These population ratings don't change on a minute by minute basis, they are based on a period of time.

 

Now, these people have factored in to the activity tracker. And Maguuma, already the most populated server in the game, skyrocketed even higher. WAY higher.

 

Servers who were at 80% of its activity are now at 70%. Those at 55% are now at 45%. Etc.

 

ANet did nothing. You people should know by now there is no person paying any attention to the populations (or anything else in WvW) at all. They rely 100% on their failing algorithm to do their work for them. And now this has happened. Maguuma is so big that no other server can even get into the same population bracket as them.

 

5 hours ago, Logan.4796 said:


That wasn't very nice. Sorry for being wrong. ☹️

But I think

 


Explains it properly




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You might want to stop and re read this entire forum page for this thread.......

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9 minutes ago, Logan.4796 said:

 

 




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You might want to stop and re read this entire forum page for this thread.......

 

??? All 16? Why did you think any reply hadn't read just 16? I mean I guess if it had been 300 then ok maybe, but just 16? So again, have read the devs posts on how populations are gauged and how locks are set, yes or no?

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15 minutes ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

 

??? All 16? Why did you think any reply hadn't read just 16? I mean I guess if it had been 300 then ok maybe, but just 16? So again, have read the devs posts on how populations are gauged and how locks are set, yes or no?



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Pretty please do me a favor and look through the dev tracker and cite your sources / link some Dev posts. At least one of these "16" you claim exist.

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1 minute ago, Logan.4796 said:



Dev Tracker

Showing topics and articles posted by 153 members and posted in for the last 999 weeks.





Pretty please do me a favor and look through the dev tracker and cite your sources / link some Dev posts. At least one of these "16" you claim exist.

16 was from this thread. You said reread this post. Where would you doubt people replying didn't read 16 posts?

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Just now, TheGrimm.5624 said:

16 was from this thread. You said reread this post. Where would you doubt people replying didn't read 16 posts?


Are you trolling me dude?


----> So again, have read the devs posts on how populations are gauged and how locks are set, yes or no? <---


WHAT DEV POSTS?!?!

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Just now, Logan.4796 said:


Are you trolling me dude?


----> So again, have read the devs posts on how populations are gauged and how locks are set, yes or no? <---


WHAT DEV POSTS?!?!

Show

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🙂 My thread history is out there. I don't think I troll, maybe I am biased. Forum friends tend to post where I seem to stray, and yes I thank them for that since it means I didn't stop and not group think. Helps to make me stop and not just post one side, or least in my own mind. Granted never claimed to play with all marbles but...

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Just now, TheGrimm.5624 said:

🙂 My thread history is out there. I don't think I troll, maybe I am biased. Forum friends tend to post where I seem to stray, and yes I thank them for that since it means I didn't stop and not group think. Helps to make me stop and not just post one side, or least in my own mind. Granted never claimed to play with all marbles but...

 

25 minutes ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

 

??? All 16? Why did you think any reply hadn't read just 16? I mean I guess if it had been 300 then ok maybe, but just 16? So again, have read the devs posts on how populations are gauged and how locks are set, yes or no?


It is impossible for me to read posts that you are referencing unless you show the referenced posts. This conversation is at an end until you can remotely display what it is you want to read. In a credible format that isn't some textual copy paste. Like a screenshot or an actual link to the dev post would be perfect.

But I genuinely have a feeling you're not capable of providing these things and are simply trolling.

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Just now, Logan.4796 said:

 


It is impossible for me to read posts that you are referencing unless you show the referenced posts. This conversation is at an end until you can remotely display what it is you want to read. In a credible format that isn't some textual copy paste. Like a screenshot or an actual link to the dev post would be perfect.

But I genuinely have a feeling you're not capable of providing these things and are simply trolling.

lol, so you are unwilling to do research, and why the caps?

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1 minute ago, Logan.4796 said:

 


It is impossible for me to read posts that you are referencing unless you show the referenced posts. This conversation is at an end until you can remotely display what it is you want to read. In a credible format that isn't some textual copy paste. Like a screenshot or an actual link to the dev post would be perfect.

But I genuinely have a feeling you're not capable of providing these things and are simply trolling.

and I wish I was a troll, so I wouldn't have felt the need to defend Mag for their legit players versus their zerglings...

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