eXruina.4956 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I am in need of enlightenment, how do non-Deadeye Thieves remove Revealed. Is there some sort of bug I don't know about that enables this? I've been encountering this a lot and find it very strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 They only get revealed if they attack out of stealth afaik. Could be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 They don't. What they do is use sword 2 or shadowstep to place a marker behind a rock or a hill somewhere. If things get dicey for them, they pop that skill and warp out of sight for awhile. To the uninitiated observer, it looks like they're popping in and out of stealth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: They only get revealed if they attack out of stealth afaik. Could be that. It's from "On My Mark" it fades roughly 2 seconds in, sometimes I think it fades when they do a Stealth combo, I've seen it happen with leaps and blasts. But I've fought plenty of Thieves where this isn't the case and are still Revealed Which is why this baffles me.🤔 5 hours ago, Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said: They don't. What they do is use sword 2 or shadowstep to place a marker behind a rock or a hill somewhere. If things get dicey for them, they pop that skill and warp out of sight for awhile. To the uninitiated observer, it looks like they're popping in and out of stealth. Its not from something as basic as that, I'd know the difference. ^~^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 57 minutes ago, eXruina.4956 said: It's from "On My Mark" it fades roughly 2 seconds in, sometimes I think it fades when they do a Stealth combo, I've seen it happen with leaps and blasts. But I've fought plenty of Thieves where this isn't the case and are still Revealed Which is why this baffles me.🤔 AH.... Yeah, only Deadeye has a way to remove revealed. If a Non -Deadeye thief is removing revealed then they are using some external software. That said if the revealed came as a result of them breaking their own stealth then it last for 3s. Did you use OMM after they came out of stealth? I'm not sure if it stacks in duration or not or if a the new application would even apply, so if it doesn't stack or overide the original application then if they broke their stealth it could still be that the original application wore off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: AH.... Yeah, only Deadeye has a way to remove revealed. If a Non -Deadeye thief is removing revealed then they are using some external software. That said if the revealed came as a result of them breaking their own stealth then it last for 3s. Did you use OMM after they came out of stealth? I'm not sure if it stacks in duration or not or if a the new application would even apply, so if it doesn't stack or overide the original application then if they broke their stealth it could still be that the original application wore off. Oh this is an interesting interaction, how does Revealed stack? does Revealed overwrite each other? for example, i Revealed them with On My Mark 6s, then they get Revealed from exiting Stealth 3s. Will the 6s get overwritten by the 3s? On second thought this happens even when they're doing a Stealth combo from a distance, don't think it has something to do with self Revealing. but I still wonder if this is an effect of how Revealed is stacked. 🤔 Edited January 30 by eXruina.4956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 It says in the wiki that Revealed stacks in duration, so overwritten shouldn't be the case. Very strange happenings. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, eXruina.4956 said: It says in the wiki that Revealed stacks in duration, so overwritten shouldn't be the case. Very strange happenings. 🤔 Then they are using a third party software, or there is a bug not letting it stack properly. FWIW, it could very well be a bug, but in WvW and PvP people have been pretty blatantly using hacks. Edited January 30 by Lan Deathrider.5910 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Maybe next time it happens, you could post a vid here so there will be less subjectivity and guessing involved? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said: Maybe next time it happens, you could post a vid here so there will be less subjectivity and guessing involved? 😉 *shrugs, a video? sounds like too much of a bother for me. I'm just inquiring, like if anyone's run into the same experience, so there's no subjectivity and guessing really involved, but On My Mark is an underused/unused skill so not really getting much feedback here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, eXruina.4956 said: I'm just inquiring, like if anyone's run into the same experience Ok, then no 😄 Whenever I saw "something fishy" in wvw, it was way less subtle than just removing revealed faster. Edited January 30 by Sobx.1758 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Just now, Sobx.1758 said: Ok, then no 😄 There ya go 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Sobx.1758 said: Whenever I saw "something fishy" in wvw, it was way less subtle than just removing revealed faster. Yeah, I feel the same way. 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 My favorite was the deadeye shooting through the walls of SET in Alpine and hitting me when I was more than 5000 range away. They didn't bother hiding the tracer shots, so I could see the shots going through the walls and continue to still hit me when I was almost back to spawn, all while they were in the tower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Revealed stacks in duration and cannot be removed by any means except shadow meld, as mentioned before. If a thief is vanishing outside of these situations when they otherwise have revealed on them: *They used the shadow portal trap or ported some distance away *They are using a combination of thief and position hacking, possibly to move themselves under the map, The latter is usually obvious, because hackers are usually bad at the game and would rather escape unfairly than die to hide the fact they're hacking. Edited January 31 by Azure The Heartless.3261 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 7 hours ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: *They are using a combination of thief and position hacking, possibly to move themselves under the map, The latter is usually obvious, because hackers are usually bad at the game and would rather escape unfairly than die to hide the fact they're hacking. I honestly don't think its a hack, I'm kinda leaning towards thinking its along the lines of a bug but can't really pin it down. 🤔 been fighting a lot of thieves this week so its standing out more and more. thank you all very much for the feedback. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasai.3549 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) They shouldn't be able to, but there really is no way to find out if they are some god reflex player who timed their Stealth just as Revealed ticked off. That's why I trust nothing but Magebane Tether. I see the yellow link between us, I dare you to "magic trick" your way out of this. Edited February 1 by Yasai.3549 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXruina.4956 Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 (edited) 4 hours ago, Yasai.3549 said: They shouldn't be able to, but there really is no way to find out if they are some god reflex player who timed their Stealth just as Revealed ticked off. That's why I trust nothing but Magebane Tether. I see the yellow link between us, I dare you to "magic trick" your way out of this. no no that isn't whats happening, the On My Mark hit, its just the revealed is supposed to last 6s but for some reason it gets removed or fades maybe around 2-3s in against some thieves, which i found really odd. yeah magebane tether is more reliable, though i really hate it when i run the opposite direction to trigger the pull only to have the enemy successfully run away cuz they have stab. 🤣 Edited February 1 by eXruina.4956 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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