When a Thief steals from an Engi...

[bethekey.8314]

they receive Gunk. This is a reference to the fact that Engineer is garbage.

[Fueki.4753]

It's just a glob a grease that Engineers use on their tools and gadgets.

[Shao.7236]

Don't remind me how with Revenant they used to hit for 8k per essence sap while having 3 secs of slow per sap.

I've did myself back in the days with S/D and having 4 saps to work with was just wild for the damage and total slow.

[bethekey.8314]

4 hours ago, Fueki.4753 said:

It's just a glob a grease that Engineers use on their tools and gadgets.

I always have pocket grease at the ready.

Sometimes it cuts, poisons, burns, chills, weakens, cripples, immobilizes, and blinds me though.

[Kuma.1503]

*Shrug* 

Holo's literally never NOT viable at the very least. 

Mech... no one's surprised that got dumpstered. I've never supported the mindset that "X class/elite that I hate doesn't belong in PvP" (Hence why I don't advocate for thief specs to be deleted even tho my monke brain can't figure out why sneaky man keeps killing me), but Anet gave into the salt. 

Scrapper... it consistently sits in Holo's shadow with brief stints in the meta in one form or another before it's swiftly nerfed and eventually reworked. Core nerfs to tone down Holo also end up hitting it as well, which does not help.  Todays' flavor of rework is "lets rip out the quickness with no compensation and wonder why it's underperforming. Gee, sure is a mystery why its playrate fell off a cliff"

Personally, as someone who likes the entirety of Engineer. It saddens me that our meta spec is always Holosmith. Nade Holo, Tools Holo, Prot Holo, Elixir rifle Holo... I'd like to play something else without feeling like I'm handicapping myself for a change.

Part of me wants Holo to finally get nuked from orbit so that the core class can stop being balanced around it and the other two elite specs/core can shine. Then I sober up and remember that Anet loves to dish out the nerfs without actually going back to fix what they broke. 

Edited February 8 by Kuma.1503

[SleepyBat.9034]

9 hours ago, Kuma.1503 said:

*Shrug* 

Holo's literally never NOT viable at the very least. 

Mech... no one's surprised that got dumpstered. I've never supported the mindset that "X class/elite that I hate doesn't belong in PvP" (Hence why I don't advocate for thief specs to be deleted even tho my monke brain can't figure out why sneaky man keeps killing me), but Anet gave into the salt. 

Scrapper... it consistently sits in Holo's shadow with brief stints in the meta in one form or another before it's swiftly nerfed and eventually reworked. Core nerfs to tone down Holo also end up hitting it as well, which does not help.  Todays' flavor of rework is "lets rip out the quickness with no compensation and wonder why it's underperforming. Gee, sure is a mystery why its playrate fell off a cliff"

Personally, as someone who likes the entirety of Engineer. It saddens me that our meta spec is always Holosmith. Nade Holo, Tools Holo, Prot Holo, Elixir rifle Holo... I'd like to play something else without feeling like I'm handicapping myself for a change.

Part of me wants Holo to finally get nuked from orbit so that the core class can stop being balanced around it and the other two elite specs/core can shine. Then I sober up and remember that Anet loves to dish out the nerfs without actually going back to fix what they broke. 

Personally I can't see myself playing much of Core, Scrapper, or Mechanist in the future. I think their design is weak from a competitive standpoint, I don't enjoy playing specs that have multiple inherent weaknesses because it means I have considerable less freedom during build crafting.