Joxer.6024 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just as the title asks.....or starts to. Is Spectre any good in open world\strikes or am I better off on something elese? Only class I dont haev and keen to give it a go, if its any good. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Terrible AoE, Shortbow is useless on it and it's mobility is greatly reduced compared to other specs so no reason to use it over them. Specter is for single target bosses only so you'll use it in Strikes. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joxer.6024 Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 7 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said: Terrible AoE, Shortbow is useless on it and it's mobility is greatly reduced compared to other specs so no reason to use it over them. Specter is for single target bosses only so you'll use it in Strikes. thanks for that. yea, after seeing some gameplay and such I came to the same conclusion as you....so thanks again for the heads up. Sad really, as class\spec seems like it could be a good thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash.9213 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Joxer.6024 said: thanks for that. yea, after seeing some gameplay and such I came to the same conclusion as you....so thanks again for the heads up. Sad really, as class\spec seems like it could be a good thing.... Endless Night and Rot Wallow Venom in groups can tag a lot. Targets have to be between Endless Target beam mostly but if a mob is close together then there is some splash all around. Grasping Shadows and Eternal Night could either use better radius or hit more than five targets... or both. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead.1963 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Spectre is all kinds of jank. Better to just stick with DrD or DE. But hey if the theme really jells with you nothings stopping you from just rolling with it. Anything goes in Open. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggie.3184 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, kash.9213 said: Endless Night and Rot Wallow Venom in groups can tag a lot. Targets have to be between Endless Target beam mostly but if a mob is close together then there is some splash all around. Grasping Shadows and Eternal Night could either use better radius or hit more than five targets... or both. Too bad the skill feels absolutely awful to use cuz Measured Shot's rubberbanding effect and it's extremely slow windup cuz of that miserable pre-skill. Still landslides better off using Daredevil with Staff or Shortbow and enjoying more control over your life. Edited February 21 by Doggie.3184 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny.9834 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) For OW: Celestial D/D and SB Specter. Trickery: 1-2-3 Deadly Arts: 3-2-1 Specter: 2-3-2 Withdraw. Roll for Initiative. Green Well. Yellow Well. Elite Well. Gear: Cele with Divinity Rune. Weapon: Sigil of Stars and Concentration on both weapon sets. Strait forward, easy to use, great survivability. lots of CCs. You can solo most bosses with it. Edited February 21 by Bunny.9834 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash.9213 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Doggie.3184 said: Too bad the skill feels absolutely awful to use cuz Measured Shot's rubberbanding effect and it's extremely slow windup cuz of that miserable pre-skill. Still landslides better off using Daredevil with Staff or Shortbow and enjoying more control over your life. The Measured Shot portion is mostly fine except in tight spots like a tower lord room. I still take Daredevil once in a while but with S/D or maybe D/? + Shortbow. Staff 3 and 5 feel alright but the rest of that weapon might be alright utility but feels stupid and Staff can gas out under pressure if you're not around support and haven't slotted gear heavily to mitigate and burst heal. DrD better be tops with how much it's been worked on over time but I'd still rather have Specter since it has more and better answers to most stuff. If everything is going perfectly and the map isn't cluttered, rolling around with staff is fine also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftPup.3048 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Scepter/Pistol 3 can AoE but it's a big pain. I generally just play Dragon stats Daredevil in open world for the cleave. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) Spectre can tag virtually everything around you if you build with heal per second food, sanctuary runes and the bottom grandmaster choice. Shadowstep heals you, when you heal you get barrier, when you Shadowstep with barrier you spread it to allies, when you give allies barrier you give them rot wallow venom, when they hit stuff they apply torment which gives you hit credit. Is a pretty fun build for stuff like the Halloween labyrinth. Edited March 3 by Jugglemonkey.8741 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Yuudachi.9807 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) Any condition thief in the open world is just trash. We suffer unnecessary nerf from soloing the venoms. Whoever came up with the idea is just dumb. Sadly specter has 0 power dps potential now (Thank you Cmc), unlike power, condition, boon and support mechanists. I love the balance. The heal number isn't worth such a huge dps loss. Only if you want to solo any legendary bosses, but I believe only few people will do that. Specter is kind of trash everywhere now. Trash in WvW, trash in PvP. All those wells are meaningless. What can we do with such short distance teleportations in the open world when we already have mounts. The only place you may give it a try is raid, but virtuoso is a much better option for veteran players in the most of situations. Edited March 3 by Ken Yuudachi.9807 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stx.4857 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Power thief is weak in open world but is still good at killing normal and veteran mobs because of blinds and CC. condition thief doesn’t deal as much damage as other classes, but is very capable of killing legendary bounties or any other tough boss mob that you may encounter. I believe condi spectre while solo is about 11-12k dps, necro can get up to 16k for reference. As for spectre specifically, it’s mostly single target which is its biggest weakness, but you can get some aoe running the condi well or thousand needles. Me personally I prefer celestial deadeye for open world. Pistol/dagger for single target, or shortbow for aoe when necessary. Very tanky with good single target damage for champions and shortbow handles groups of weaker enemies fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Bane.9387 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 2/21/2023 at 3:17 PM, Bunny.9834 said: For OW: Celestial D/D and SB Specter. Trickery: 1-2-3 Deadly Arts: 3-2-1 Specter: 2-3-2 Withdraw. Roll for Initiative. Green Well. Yellow Well. Elite Well. Gear: Cele with Divinity Rune. Weapon: Sigil of Stars and Concentration on both weapon sets. Strait forward, easy to use, great survivability. lots of CCs. You can solo most bosses with it. Just been testing the build out on pvp npcs instead of pve, but this is pretty fun. Thanks for the idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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