Khalisto.5780 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 i hope we get nerfs next tuesday 2 1 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 to match cata nerfs heartseeker 25% dmg reduction superspeed when entering stealth 3 to 1.5 secs dagger storm or whatever elite they using 30 secs increase on cd that blindness when they enter stealth big icd of course 1 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sereath.1428 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Sounds very reasonable. And maybe some more Vindicator nerfs as well. Just like last time: "3 to 5 Eles per team during the tournament? Got it, we need to nerf Vindicator as harsh/harsher than Catalyst." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatsnjuices.1698 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 A class won a tourney so its obviously op? Sounds like a ltp issue. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawgie.1835 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) A class places in MAT and you immediately ask for a nerf? Proceeds to compare it to Cata? My guy... did 5 thieves win the MAT? Nah. So what are you evening comparing for? Bro get outta here with all this. Edited March 1 by jdawgie.1835 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Meta.3158 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Black powder is a problem but other than that, eh. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Honestly there were far too many mesmers in the mAT, they should all be reduced to 1 dodge. It's also clear that adding distortion made this possible, remove all distortion. Let us pray this is sorted promptly, we'll be getting 5 man chrono and virtuoso comps according to predictions! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Dr Meta.3158 said: Black powder is a problem but other than that, eh. I really am surprised that the duration of the field never got split between game modes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead.1963 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 6 hours ago, Dr Meta.3158 said: Black powder is a problem but other than that, eh. Black Powder really is a problem. This is even recognized by thieves as D/P is the weapon-set everything else is compared to, but nothing ever comes close. Turn the Smoke field into a Dark Field but keep the blind.. Either that or remove heartseekers leap-combo. 1 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 This is obviously sarcasm 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 6 hours ago, TwiceDead.1963 said: Black Powder really is a problem. This is even recognized by thieves as D/P is the weapon-set everything else is compared to, but nothing ever comes close. Turn the Smoke field into a Dark Field but keep the blind.. Either that or remove heartseekers leap-combo. It's the build others are compared to not because it's op but because it's the sole viable competitive build thieves have left, and u want it nerfed lmao great balance idea. Bringing other weapon kits up to compete with the one competitive build left seems far better than nerfing the one build leaving thief completely out of the meta. Also I'm pretty sure this thread is a meme on people in the pvp community who automatically call for nerfs on classes that are on mat winning teams as if them being on winning teams is any metric at all of them being op, classes CAN be effective and not be op, somthing gw2 pvp community can't seem to grasp often lol. Edited March 1 by Psycoprophet.8107 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead.1963 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: It's the build others are compared to not because it's op but because it's the sole viable competitive build thieves have left, and u want it nerfed lmao great balance idea. Bringing other weapon kits up to compete with the one competitive build left seems far better than nerfing the one build leaving thief completely out of the meta. Yes, I want it nerfed, if only so D/P can stop stealing the spotlight from the other million issues plaguing thief. Instead of continuously targeting our traitlines in attempts to balance thief they should attack it right at the source and D/P plays a big part of it. Gut thief. Do it. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 15 minutes ago, TwiceDead.1963 said: Yes, I want it nerfed, if only so D/P can stop stealing the spotlight from the other million issues plaguing thief. Instead of continuously targeting our traitlines in attempts to balance thief they should attack it right at the source and D/P plays a big part of it. Gut thief. Do it. They did gut thief, why u think it's only used build currently in competitive matches? Rogue is universally a hate class in all mmos that have pvp modes due to the the archetypes invariably anoying playstyle to fight. Problem is take away the things that make a rogue annoying to fight and it no long feels like a rogue. Thief will always be one of if not the most complained about classes due to it being a "rogue" class. When s/d was meta d/p was barely played, devs just need to give some other kits some love to bring up thiefs build diversity. Really the devs should be doing such on most of the classes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazsi.2734 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I don't like that thieves can stealth. A-net fix please. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead.1963 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Psycoprophet.8107 said: They did gut thief Then gut it more. Edited March 1 by TwiceDead.1963 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TwiceDead.1963 said: Then gut it more. U wanna gut kitten gbage in the game? How about holo? I literally just got one shot out of stealth in wvw on a 27k hp bladesworn lmao, let's see dp thief do that 🙂 Edited March 1 by Psycoprophet.8107 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.8623 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 20 minutes ago, TwiceDead.1963 said: Then gut it more. No 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Existence is suffering I am 99% sure Khalisto is joking but I'm sure a good portion of people want thief to just not be usable period. Edited March 2 by Azure The Heartless.3261 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 DD needs 2 dodges not 3, now that you got your steal back. 4 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sleepwalker.1398 said: DD needs 2 dodges not 3, now that you got your steal back. Lmao go away People really be like "you got your sidegrade reverted so I guess you no longer need (insert critical class element)" Edited March 2 by Azure The Heartless.3261 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Lmao go away People really be like "you got your sidegrade reverted so I guess you no longer need (insert critical class element)" Actually before ppl were like DD has 900 Swipe we can't give up the 3rd dodge. So now whats the excuse? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sleepwalker.1398 said: Actually before ppl were like DD has 900 Swipe we can't give up the 3rd dodge. So now whats the excuse? Nobody was complaining about 3rd dodge before (and nobody needed to defend it), they were too busy fighting over people rabid over gutting acro, shortbow, stealth, sword pistol, staff, smokescreen and the like, and using "but third dodge" as a cudgel to try to silence thief players that complained about it. All of those nerfs got made. Core thief (and most builds that dont include D/P) is/are unplayable as a result. I think it's about time people grew out of tantrum-blaming thief every time one manages to embarrass them, instead of constantly advocating for it being harder to work with (while the other professions end up taking on the traits axed from thief over time). It's getting old. People unironically think OP isn't being sarcastic, I hate it here. Edited March 2 by Azure The Heartless.3261 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 40 minutes ago, Azure The Heartless.3261 said: Nobody was complaining about 3rd dodge before (and nobody needed to defend it), they were too busy fighting over people rabid over gutting acro, shortbow, stealth, sword pistol, staff, smokescreen and the like, and using "but third dodge" as a cudgel to try to silence thief players that complained about it. All of those nerfs got made. Core thief (and most builds that dont include D/P) is/are unplayable as a result. I think it's about time people grew out of tantrum-blaming thief every time one manages to embarrass them, instead of constantly advocating for it being harder to work with (while the other professions end up taking on the traits axed from thief over time). It's getting old. People unironically think OP isn't being sarcastic, I hate it here. Come to WvW, fight a P/P DD, see how fun it is. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sleepwalker.1398 said: Come to WvW, fight a P/P DD, see how fun it is. ...you're out here losing to roaming pistol pistol daredevils? On what profession? And you want to axe dodges cause of this? Edited March 2 by Azure The Heartless.3261 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotride.2187 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Sleepwalker.1398 said: Come to WvW, fight a P/P DD, see how fun it is. This is conquest though. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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