noneHotBuildTest.7251 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Arena Net have a bias for scrapper to keep buff it. DPS scrapper just dealing insane amounts of damage from stealth in pvp/wvw. they seem to have a lot of sustain and mobility aswell. Support Scrapper is just a better version of Firebrand in groups in wvw, It provides sustained healing ,perma stability, and extreme resurrecting ability with 25 might! I think it is time to nerf scrapper. 1 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbo.4087 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Here we go again 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Bruh!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 29 minutes ago, noneHotBuildTest.7251 said: I think it is time to nerf scrapper. Are you out of your mind! ANY engineer spec can one shot with grenades if that's what u are thinking. I am a scrapper main and i have tested that buid too but man-O-man, if anyone touches me, i am DEAD. btw scrapper was already nerfed....NERFED ALOT and fyi, scrapper needs DMG buff on her hammer skills. Here is that one shot build: [&DQMGORUqKy3ZEgAAhgAAACcTAACuEgAAgxIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=] Do me a favor and play with this build for few matches and tell us how it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 @Kodama.6453Was it you that dealt with this last time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyphor.3480 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 My ironic detector is overloading. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriforst.1290 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, apharma.3741 said: @Kodama.6453Was it you that dealt with this last time? No, that would be our friendly neighbourhood @Sahne.6950, aka the "last sane ele main". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 8 hours ago, August.5934 said: Are you out of your mind! ANY engineer spec can one shot with grenades if that's what u are thinking. I am a scrapper main and i have tested that buid too but man-O-man, if anyone touches me, i am DEAD. btw scrapper was already nerfed....NERFED ALOT and fyi, scrapper needs DMG buff on her hammer skills. Here is that one shot build: [&DQMGORUqKy3ZEgAAhgAAACcTAACuEgAAgxIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=] Do me a favor and play with this build for few matches and tell us how it went. No matter how squishy a build may be, excessive amounts of damage from literal invisibility should not exist. But from what I can tell, this case mostly is an issue with Grenades and Stealth. These could be adjusted without majorly harming Scrapper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriforst.1290 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Fueki.4753 said: No matter how squishy a build may be, excessive amounts of damage from literal invisibility should not exist. But from what I can tell, this case mostly is an issue with Grenades and Stealth. These could be adjusted without majorly harming Scrapper. I am afraid it's a ship that sailed at beta. And genuine question here to those who are in the loop about "harming scrapper". Outside of sheenanigans such as 100nades (old as the pavement as it is) what is there left to harm on scrapper in competitive modes that hasn't been nerfed five times over? And stealth or grenades is a core feature for engineer. And on the subject i take someone leading with stealth + burst on a cooldown over constant restealthing any day of the week. There is a reason i often roam with lock on. Edited March 10 by miriforst.1290 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 6 hours ago, Fueki.4753 said: No matter how squishy a build may be, excessive amounts of damage from literal invisibility should not exist. https://i.postimg.cc/85G2qq3S/image.png what do you mean SHOULD NOT exsit. the cooldown on stealth is 60sec and gives 9sec stealth. Why are you not saying anything about thiefs one shot? mesmer's one shot? Dragon hunter putting traps under you from stealth and one shotting u.... Ranger one shot....Reaper's crazy out bursts.... but this dude comes here to complain about the build with 0 sustain and if engi miss it, that's it... that's everything she got. If scrapper's stealth was like 20sec CD or 30sec with long stealth duration then i would myself make a post about nerfing it but not this. it's @noneHotBuildTest.7251 own fault for not playing correctly and not being aware of the possibility. This post shouldn't even exist and i mean it. On top of 60sec CD on stealth, that "one shot" grenade skill has 25sec CD. Just get good at PVP @noneHotBuildTest.7251. fyi, i am 100% sure u can detect engi on mini-map so just try to keep eye on her position. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanabal lecter.2495 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, August.5934 said: https://i.postimg.cc/85G2qq3S/image.png what do you mean SHOULD NOT exsit. the cooldown on stealth is 60sec and gives 9sec stealth. Why are you not saying anything about thiefs one shot? mesmer's one shot? Dragon hunter putting traps under you from stealth and one shotting u.... Ranger one shot....Reaper's crazy out bursts.... but this dude comes here to complain about the build with 0 sustain and if engi miss it, that's it... that's everything she got. If scrapper's stealth was like 20sec CD or 30sec with long stealth duration then i would myself make a post about nerfing it but not this. it's @noneHotBuildTest.7251 own fault for not playing correctly and not being aware of the possibility. This post shouldn't even exist and i mean it. On top of 60sec CD on stealth, that "one shot" grenade skill has 25sec CD. Just get good at PVP @noneHotBuildTest.7251. fyi, i am 100% sure u can detect engi on mini-map so just try to keep eye on her position. It's actually just 3 secs of stealth in wvw for gyro lol.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventress.4879 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Scrapper is in a great position in PvP/WvW it neither needs a buff or nerf (stealth gyro probably the only valid thing that needs a buff). It was once the king of support and you were actively mocked if you brought something like a Druid to a static Zerg but that is no longer the case. The Quickness nerf to Scrapper has left it in a conformable position as a front line DPS/Healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 *Pours tea* This is getting old... Sahne, come pick up your son please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, hanabal lecter.2495 said: It's actually just 3 secs of stealth in wvw for gyro lol.. I KNOW RIGHT!!! just 3secs and Anet also removed the combo field: smoke from it. We had nothing be nerfs on nerfs. I just want Anet to increase Hammer skill's damage in PVE & abit in PVP. Our Defensive Field became ground target skill too. Cause onlike holosmith which gets big burst and weapon switch and on demand shield. Scrapper is just all hammer. I actually want Anet to increase Electro-Whirl's damage by 65% in PVP if they could [3100 -> 5000]. I hate using grenades cause it feels super clunky and other engineer kit's damage is pathetic / trash... the whole scrapper's kit almost has no stun-break and no to break through from immobolization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August.5934 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Kuma.1503 said: This is getting old... Sahne, come pick up your son please. I know but it's cause of this kind of topics that we get nonsense nerfs to out kit and get more abusers on PVP field. Enough to catch Anet's attentions for the kit to get butchered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatraznc.3869 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Hey the engineer hater is back. Cant say I've missed him to be honest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 hours ago, August.5934 said: https://i.postimg.cc/85G2qq3S/image.png what do you mean SHOULD NOT exsit. the cooldown on stealth is 60sec and gives 9sec stealth. Why are you not saying anything about thiefs one shot? mesmer's one shot? Dragon hunter putting traps under you from stealth and one shotting u.... Ranger one shot....Reaper's crazy out bursts.... but this dude comes here to complain about the build with 0 sustain and if engi miss it, that's it... that's everything she got. If scrapper's stealth was like 20sec CD or 30sec with long stealth duration then i would myself make a post about nerfing it but not this. it's @noneHotBuildTest.7251 own fault for not playing correctly and not being aware of the possibility. This post shouldn't even exist and i mean it. On top of 60sec CD on stealth, that "one shot" grenade skill has 25sec CD. Just get good at PVP @noneHotBuildTest.7251. fyi, i am 100% sure u can detect engi on mini-map so just try to keep eye on her position. I've advocated for significant nerfs to Stealth and Stealth-related things in the past, no matter which professions. I've advocated for the removal of Stealth from Trapper Runes. I've complained a lot about the excessive amounts of Stealth that Thief and Mesmer use. That aside, the very part of my post that you quoted is a general opinion, not exclusively tied to any specific profession. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Had one in a team today. Was apparently doing a lot of damage (and was being pretty toxic about it), but I also saw them go splat in pretty short order a few times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko.7132 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I would happily give scrapper hammer buffs and holo forge buffs if grenades couldn’t be thrown behind you. Hammer and forge are fun to fight against. Chasing an engi with superspeed throwing nades over his shoulder is not. I don’t thin engi burst is op, but I do think it shreds new and bad players. Maybe some damage modifiers could be traded for sustain for the sake of lower tiers. I think we can all agree that the scrapper build does have an absurd amount of modifiers. Even if that’s not broken at higher tiers, it definitely is at lower tiers. I would love to see a scrapper build that does better at higher tiers and doesn’t cheese the lower ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Salazar.5430 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) i wuld like buff on tool kit, strike dmg wise like Power Wrench wuld give adional +250 power while on tool kit Pry bar went from 15s -> 12s Edited March 11 by Noah Salazar.5430 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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