noneHotBuildTest.7251 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Elementalist Dragon's Tooth: Reduced power coefficient from 1.5 to 1.33 in PvP only. Water Trident: Reduced damage bonus when striking a chilled foe from 50% to 33% in PvP only. Swirling Winds: Reduced duration from 6 seconds to 4 seconds in PvP only. Elemental Celerity: Adjusted recharge amount from 100% to 25 seconds in PvP only. WHY! Everyone talk how broken is engi/holo/scrapper and Anet nerf ele? What's this conclusion come from? Don't get why engi always win in balance patch! Edited March 14 by noneHotBuildTest.7251 3 12 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 scepter / focus targeted nerfs. 1 Catalyst specific nerf (albeit a huge one). Why anet? Where are all the core / tempest / weavers wrecking pvp with scepter? Is it not just catalyst? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeferson.5679 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 maybe 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The Ele nerfs are completely warranted. This class absolutely dominates higher tiered play team comps. Also, they did toss nerfs at Scrapper, quite a handful of them. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephKatz.9375 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Needs way more, engi in general needs to get wrecked. Especially damage modifiers, which haven’t been touched yet. Edited March 14 by JosephKatz.9375 2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeferson.5679 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Scrapper and ele dominated pvp, if you give them a little nerf they position themselves with other classes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Elementalist is broken, please consider nerf it asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 14 minutes ago, JosephKatz.9375 said: Needs way more, engi in general needs to get wrecked. Especially damage modifiers, which haven’t been touched yet. Engineer's damage modifiers are nothing outstanding, really. They also did nerf the damage scrapper can pull off by reducing might stacks they get. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Kodama.6453 said: Engineer's damage modifiers are nothing outstanding, really. They also did nerf the damage scrapper can pull off by reducing might stacks they get. The Sneak Gyro nerf was the substantial bulk of the nerf, as well as the nerf to super speed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Nerf core ele nerf core engi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallic.2397 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Dragons tooth and elemental celerity are acceptable. Everything else is overkill. Scepter needs sustain. After everything is said and done, the only buff it still kept is barrier on Earth 2. All the other buffs have been reverted. So much for a rework 🤕🤕 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 You guys are dense if you think Swirling Winds was the thing that needed to get hit. Anet hit all the right things on scepter except for the random kitten focus hit, when swirling winds LITERALLY isn't the thing that made cata go over the edge. Lord have mercy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Meta.3158 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The swirling winds nerf made rangers and harbingers a little more playable. A little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Dr Meta.3158 said: The swirling winds nerf made rangers and harbingers a little more playable. A little. This right here makes NO sense when Harb has been said to be the COUNTER to Cata. Can this forum make up its mind??????? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zex Anthon.8673 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 minutes ago, Dreams.3128 said: This right here makes NO sense when Harb has been said to be the COUNTER to Cata. Can this forum make up its mind??????? With near permanent projectile blocks with magnetic aura and swirling winds. Yea sure bud. Try playing a class with 0 active defenses and 0 stability. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyBat.9034 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, noneHotBuildTest.7251 said: WHY! Everyone talk how broken is engi/holo/scrapper and Anet nerf ele? What's this conclusion come from? Don't get why engi always win in balance patch! Probably because Engineer isn't as strong as Elementalist. Edited March 14 by SleepyBat.9034 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 lol, i guess now staff is the best core ele weapon rofl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 kitten they really don’t want to touch auras. Scepter will continue to be nerfed until it’s useless. its getting harder to justify running it over hammer. That swirling winds nerf I somewhat expected but kitten they are really pushing for staff tempest meta I guess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Lol this forum is full of [expletive]s, no point even arguing the most basic logic with these people. For some reason they still think scepter abilities are the reason why catalyst is broken. Not the auras, not the ten thousand boons (incl stab), not the now nerfed elemental celerity. Most buffs have been neutered, and we're almost back to baseline scepter yet people will want more nerfs for super speed, fresh air and instant skills. Scepter weaver, core or tempest DON'T DO ANYTHING OR ARE META - IT'S JUST THE CATALYST. But let's continue nerfing weapons instead of kittening elite specs. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Lol, as someone who mains both specs. I'm perfectly fine with the Cata nerf. I might actually play Scepter Cata now since it's not as free as it was before. May have to kite more than before and time swirling winds a bit better, but I can still see it being viable. I prefer elemental over Celerity anyway. 7k heal on water elemental. 8k crit on fire elemental. Never stops being funny. I expected them to nerf the double gale / double obsidian flesh much sooner tbh. Scrapper, I seriously wish they'd just gutted Sneak Gyro, at least the stealth one shots were addressed in a different way. Annoyed that the builds that weren't problematic got hit as collateral damage again, but... Thankful core engi didn't get touched at least. That's a win in it's own right. Edited March 14 by Kuma.1503 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shion.2084 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, JosephKatz.9375 said: Needs way more, engi in general needs to get wrecked. Especially damage modifiers, which haven’t been touched yet. They took away engi's ability to generate might if it wants to still run the old build. So while the modifier hasn't been touched your going to loose a ton of might... which nets to less damage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Zex Anthon.8673 said: With near permanent projectile blocks with magnetic aura and swirling winds. Yea sure bud. Try playing a class with 0 active defenses and 0 stability. Bro I can literally go back and re-quote every person that had said Harb was the counter to Cata. People have actively hit everything except the things that needed to be hit listed by someone else in this thread. This community legit TILTS me because people ACTIVELY sabotage classes and then wonder why when their mains finally get hit, why Anet balances the way they do. 1 hour ago, Razor.6392 said: Lol this forum is full of [expletive]s, no point even arguing the most basic logic with these people. For some reason they still think scepter abilities are the reason why catalyst is broken. Not the auras, not the ten thousand boons (incl stab), not the now nerfed elemental celerity. Most buffs have been neutered, and we're almost back to baseline scepter yet people will want more nerfs for super speed, fresh air and instant skills. Scepter weaver, core or tempest DON'T DO ANYTHING OR ARE META - IT'S JUST THE CATALYST. But let's continue nerfing weapons instead of kittening elite specs. This man has it correct. Elite spec traits literally being untouched until anet wants to sell new ones. Yea, PvP is dead for me now. This is a circus at this point. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I hate nerf to weapon sets. It nerfs the entire class not just the spec. I kinda hope they nerf ele regen/sustain honestly. Maybe a icd for the healing signet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Quote Swirling Winds: Reduced duration from 6 seconds to 4 seconds in PvP only. All ranged damaged should be nerfed by 33% acrossed the board then! 😡 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captrowdy.9561 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said: The Ele nerfs are completely warranted. This class absolutely dominates higher tiered play team comps. Also, they did toss nerfs at Scrapper, quite a handful of them. They where probably running forward and targeting backward when they did it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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