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Use " /wiki et " while ingame to get an event table, this gives you a heads up when the metas will start, start looking in the lfg BEFORE it begins, depending on time of day and the meta you might need to be joining a good 10-15 min before.

Sometimes all it takes is for you to start a group yourself and people will flock to it as they might be in same boat sitting waiting for a group to start, even if you can't tag up someone who joins could.

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5 hours ago, LSD.4673 said:

Acceptance is the first step.

Cool, which metas/maps relevant to this thread are so dead they can't be completed? (since as I understand you're directing that at me, not at OP?)

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Mostly things are fine if you use the event timer or get there right at their first reset of the day. It would be nice if there could be a daily category for truly dead things with a ton of associated achievements like the Tower of Nightmares and Serpent's Ire though. Serpent's Ire has been blocking me from turning in 10+ recordings to that Sandswept Isles robot for literal months. 😕

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I know Thunderhead has some issues. South I struggle to complete. That could use some rescaling work. There are a few other small bosses as well

I was in Jahai last night. I was surprised to see it so populated. We got bounties done, legendary djinn done (twice) and various other activities. Sometimes it’s a bit of luck - the game has expanded a lot and content rewards aren’t well balanced. I do think Anet need to start doing one or both of two things:

- Check scaling. Not everything is tuned well to current populations

- Utilise their boss and meta runs more often
 

The latter should be obvious. They set these up to run regularly then almost immediately abandoned them and went silent on the issue (I know they have a no communication policy, but surely this isn’t top secret info). Throw in some metas for each expansion/season between our now sparse content drops and we can really get some maps flowing more frequently.

Obviously things are not as bad as the op is hyperventilating over, but little things would help improve engagement across more maps. 

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Complaining is super effective. For example "I've been killing these things for 2 hours, where is the collection item?!!" and then the next mob drops the item. 🙂

9 minutes ago, Sweetbread.3678 said:

Serpent's Ire has been blocking me from turning in 10+ recordings to that Sandswept Isles robot for literal months.

That is possibly the worst event in the game in terms of effort versus rewards. People complain about other events but other events usually make up for it by having either quantity or at least a lot of mobs for more potential drops. SI has none of those. At most there is the daily chest but you can get that from the other event on the map instead which requires less effort to complete.

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1 minute ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

That is possibly the worst event in the game in terms of effort versus rewards. People complain about other events but other events usually make up for it by having either quantity or at least a lot of mobs for more potential drops. SI has none of those. At most there is the daily chest but you can get that from the other event on the map instead which requires less effort to complete.

It wouldn't be so bad if Forged With Fire wasn't on the same map. I can totally see why nobody does it when the options for the Vabbi daily chest are either:

Insta-Nuke Balthazar's Dogs 3 Time in a Row
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Spend 10 Minutes Inside of a Death Storm Finding Snakes That Aren't Marked on the Map Followed By Spending Another 10 Minutes Killing a Gigantic PITA Boss With Multiple Phases and a Synchronized Kill Mechanic.

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26 minutes ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

Complaining is super effective. For example "I've been killing these things for 2 hours, where is the collection item?!!" and then the next mob drops the item. 🙂

That is possibly the worst event in the game in terms of effort versus rewards. People complain about other events but other events usually make up for it by having either quantity or at least a lot of mobs for more potential drops. SI has none of those. At most there is the daily chest but you can get that from the other event on the map instead which requires less effort to complete.

I see your possibly the worst event of the game then raise the stakes with Maws of Torment and portal spiker achievement.

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13 minutes ago, Sweetbread.3678 said:

Spend 10 Minutes Inside of a Death Storm Finding Snakes That Aren't Marked on the Map Followed By Spending Another 10 Minutes Killing a Gigantic PITA Boss With Multiple Phases and a Synchronized Kill Mechanic.

There is actually a solution to this using squad markers.

Having people at 9 or 10 locations should be able to cover all possible spawn points based on https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defeat_the_Branded_Forgotten_zealot

I've not seen that strategy employed.

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Do the maps according to the daily LW3/LW4 map rotation. You will have populated maps and people willing to complete the meta-events. Every day it is another map. Six maps each season, so you can re-try each map ever 6 days. If you want to go double-safe, play during prime-time (afternoon or evening). If you have unusual play-times, try on weekends.

Some maps are also populated outside of the daily rotation.
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For Serpent's Ire you have two options:
Daily Vabbi Events
Daily Vabbi Bounties

Both flush a ton of players into the maps. You still need a charismatic commander uniting them. But your chances are significantly higher at those days. 

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1 minute ago, Linken.6345 said:

I see your possibly the worst event of the game then raise the stakes with Maws of Torment and portal spiker achievement.

That one is just grindy though. Probably could do it solo since you just need to escort the NPC over. Might even be better to do it on a dead map so you could do all 3 lanes?

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18 minutes ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

That one is just grindy though. Probably could do it solo since you just need to escort the NPC over. Might even be better to do it on a dead map so you could do all 3 lanes?

You do know how often those npcs get stuck right?

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8 minutes ago, Linken.6345 said:

You do know how often those npcs get stuck right?

AFAIK it is mainly one of the three which means you can still try with the others

The most important thing is that is it only a bunch of AP

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Serpent's Ire was one of the toughest I had getting done - I eventually managed to get it done during a prime time weekend day.  But that might not be an option for every player.

Some of the other metas were also difficult, but for the LWS3/4 ones, doing it the day it was on the daily rotation tended to pull in enough players.  And those shift to different days (6 maps, so the day shifts by 1 each week, so it should eventually fall into a day you can make it)

 

 

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Seems to have been a well populated bank holiday weekend though. Managed to get;

- Jahai metas

- Marionette

- Battle for LA (twice)

- Dragon Stand

- Gerent (thrice)

- Drakkar

All done without issue at various times of day. I know EU tends to be better populated, but a lot of content still being played. I might try Path of Fire and see if that is holding up

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Just a quick note: advice to get there at reset only applies on NA servers, where reset is during prime time. On EU reset is in the middle of the night and one of the times you're least likely to find players. The best time on EU is roughly 17:00 - 23:00 UTC. 

 

Serpents Ire is less likely to get organised maps than other metas, but absolutely doable if you're willing to organise it, especially since the early phases can actually go better with fewer people. You need someone to use all the "tricks" to get people in: advertising in LFG and map chat in advance, asking their guilds to come along etc. but it can be done and especially if people see its gotten past the first phase they'll join in, which is OK because it's the last phase where you really need lots of people. I've done it where we started with 4 players and ended with about 25.

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On 4/9/2023 at 11:17 AM, Chzara.6590 said:

So no legendary amulet thanks to all these metas in dead maps. Hooray. kitten this legendary kitten.

I just got mine last night ^^ 

I had a few struggles on one or two things so I just threw a tag up myself for stuff like bounties etc. You can also try and get a map done on the day it is the daily I think? I just did a map or two every now and then till I did a lil grind for that final push.

The eye of the north one was pretty miserable to do I will say that.. but otherwise I really enjoyed doing it and it helped me get quite a few AP and mastery too 😄

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