Dumb idea I had to make Bladesworn more viable in wvw/pvp

[Celtika.8234]

To be honest I think Bladesworn does ok in wvw and I dont play enough pvp to comment but the only thing that bothers me (esp since the stab fix) is how long you need to just chill while charging.

So my dumb idea is to change the Aegis on triggerguard to just enough invis for a full charge...or an even dumber idea is to leave triggerguard how it is and give stealth on Dragon Trigger.  

Making Flicker Step Break enemy target could also be a less cheesy fix too

[Hotride.2187]

Ah yes, the lengths at which the devs would have to go to make stationary charging viable in pvp.

IMO it needs another payoff from the charging. It will never be allowed to do dmg as a payoff, so maybe pulse some party boons. Dunno what the boons would have to be though... prot and resolution, might and vigor?

[CalmTheStorm.2364]

Interesting ideas, OP, but I would definitely suggest going a different direction rather than stealth. Stealth is kind of a busted mechanic to begin with, and I think the game could use less of it, not more. Second, an unblindable, unblockable CC with max might coming out of stealth could easily become a problem for obvious reasons. 

 

A better option, imo, would be to put stab back on Dragonscale Defense, or at least add it to trigger guard.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

7 minutes ago, CalmTheStorm.2364 said:

Interesting ideas, OP, but I would definitely suggest going a different direction rather than stealth. Stealth is kind of a busted mechanic to begin with, and I think the game could use less of it, not more. Second, an unblindable, unblockable CC with max might coming out of stealth could easily become a problem for obvious reasons. 

 

A better option, imo, would be to put stab back on Dragonscale Defense, or at least add it to trigger guard.

Put the stealth access on another GM trait.🧐

[Downstate.4697]

My idea is give triggerguard and flicker step an extra charge. Make flickerstep 450 range and make trigger guard also provide stability. Lower the cd of each by 10s. Maybe that would enable more use of  daring dragon. Change lush forest to reduce the cooldown of all ammo skills by 3s when using an ammo skills first charge. 
 

I did not think very hard for this so sorry if it’s flawed

[CalmTheStorm.2364]

44 minutes ago, FrownyClown.8402 said:

My idea is give triggerguard and flicker step an extra charge. Make flickerstep 450 range and make trigger guard also provide stability. Lower the cd of each by 10s. Maybe that would enable more use of  daring dragon. Change lush forest to reduce the cooldown of all ammo skills by 3s when using an ammo skills first charge. 
 

I did not think very hard for this so sorry if it’s flawed

Totally agree on the flicker step and trigger guard ideas.

 

Daring Dragon has so many issues...the forced re-entry is super clunky (and not desirable most of the time anyway), it's penalized majorly by the flow cost to enter DT, it's still telegraphed and doesn't have the benefit of being unblockable and unblindable....

It just needs a full rework.

 

Personally, I think DT should be unblindable and unblockable at baseline, and DD should be "DT charges twice as fast, max 5 charges, DT CD reduced to 6s".

 

LF is just a mess and needs a full rework

[oscuro.9720]

Why don’t we just remove the cooldown on Trigger guard and have aegis whenever we’d like while charging? No need to worry about being interrupted if you can block every attack 😛

Edited April 24 by oscuro.9720

[Celtika.8234]

On 4/21/2023 at 4:37 AM, CalmTheStorm.2364 said:

Interesting ideas, OP, but I would definitely suggest going a different direction rather than stealth. Stealth is kind of a busted mechanic to begin with, and I think the game could use less of it, not more. Second, an unblindable, unblockable CC with max might coming out of stealth could easily become a problem for obvious reasons. 

 

A better option, imo, would be to put stab back on Dragonscale Defense, or at least add it to trigger guard.

 

Yes, I miss the stab 😞

[Cat Bonum.8310]

hidden dragon, enter stealth for 4s when entering dragon trigger.

 

then make flicker step 1200 range in line with other teleport skills on long cooldowns. in fact its cd should be reduced to 40s.

 

let the mind games begin, hahahaha 🤣

Edited April 27 by eXruina.4956

[Vancho.8750]

On 4/20/2023 at 11:43 AM, Hotride.2187 said:

Ah yes, the lengths at which the devs would have to go to make stationary charging viable in pvp.

IMO it needs another payoff from the charging. It will never be allowed to do dmg as a payoff, so maybe pulse some party boons. Dunno what the boons would have to be though... prot and resolution, might and vigor?

They sold the spec doing bajilion damage but with long charge and then they put a 5k cap on it in PVP, if that isn't the dumbest decision ever. They should have let me one shot dumb kitten for like 3 months and have my fun with the expansion, but noo they gave the one shots to ele necro and guardian new specs. 0/10 expansion for warriors in pvp.

[Cat Bonum.8310]

2 hours ago, Vancho.8750 said:

They sold the spec doing bajilion damage but with long charge and then they put a 5k cap on it in PVP, if that isn't the dumbest decision ever. They should have let me one shot dumb kitten for like 3 months and have my fun with the expansion, but noo they gave the one shots to ele necro and guardian new specs. 0/10 expansion for warriors in pvp.

ikr. 🤣

[Blackthunder.8679]

When I saw it I was like - kitten no, more in combat bull kitten - but then. If I have to endure all the bull kitten why shouldn't I have some too.  

Samuninja all the way. Make stealth on DT baseline with 6 charges on FS so we can bunny hop in stealth.

 

Also add a "can't touch this" sound line to FS.