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So, we all know about the events that are required to get the Griffon right? And we also know that no one does them, given that the map is useless to 70% of the playerbase.

 

Then why am i required to complete them? I have been trying to get it done for 4 days already, i finished all the rest of the collections, just need those stupid events, but firstly, they don't spawn... I just have to WAIT, not grind, like a normal MMO or game, no WAIT. Then i am FORCED to complete it with a group of more than 5 people, because in 4 it isn't possible, the NPC dies way too fast. And this is just one of 6! And from what i gathered from the guides, they all require a group.

 

I do try to create a group, but not enough people join, because you know... It's useless for them cause they already got it when it was actually populated. Please just change it.

 

MAKE IT GRINDY, NOT LOCKED

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Which events are you having trouble with? Have you tried them when that zone has the dailies? You say you’ve been trying the past four days… which are weekday nights. Weekends will have higher populations across the game.

One week isn’t a terrible time for an unlock of the best mount in the game you’ll only have to do once on your account.

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I think I know the event you mean and I did it with myself and 2 other guild mates. Since mobs spawn in packs we jus spread and they never got near. I am not sure if you have guildies you could call on but give it a try maybe? And if you have not, find a nice guild it makes the world of difference. 

It can be really annoying doing content that is pretty ditched by most players when you are newer. I was lucky to have lovely guild mates ^^

Are you EU? I don't mind coming to help you. 

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Are you using map chat and LFG? Unless you're playing in odd times like nighttime in your server, it shouldn't be too hard to find help. Our community is very good at helping others normally. 

If you're in EU I can join helping you getting these events done as well.

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1 hour ago, Shi No Nai Hasu.1428 said:

Then why am i required to complete them?

Devs develop current content. They generally do not check on old stuff a lot.

1 hour ago, Shi No Nai Hasu.1428 said:

I just have to WAIT

Yeah stupid design decision. It is fine while a map is current and a lot of people are on the map to do various things. It's really bad if you have to camp the event out to not miss it. Catching up on content that was meant as a herd activity is a little frustrating.

1 hour ago, Shi No Nai Hasu.1428 said:

Then i am FORCED to complete it with a group of more than 5 people, because in 4 it isn't possible, the NPC dies way too fast.

Should be possible with a couple of people. You can bring a little heal. You can heal npc's, especially if you only have 3 or lesss other people. Specter comes to mind for a good dps that can heal on the side to keep the Npc save. CC is quite useful too. I did it with Virtuoso swaped 1 traitline with inspiration for the group heal, legion waystation and 2 other people. If you rush fast enough to the boss the npc won't join the fight for a bit.

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Use the LFG tool before the event starts to get enough people together on the same map to complete it. It might help to say it's for the griffon collection - some people will come to help you get it and others might come because they've started the griffon collection and haven't gotten to that step yet but want to complete it while there's a group.

You can also ask your guild/s and friends to help. Even if your guild doesn't normally do PvE events together they may be willing to help you out.

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2 hours ago, Gibson.4036 said:

Which events are you having trouble with? Have you tried them when that zone has the dailies? You say you’ve been trying the past four days… which are weekday nights. Weekends will have higher populations across the game.

One week isn’t a terrible time for an unlock of the best mount in the game you’ll only have to do once on your account.

Given the clues: event, NPC dying, "does not spawn" => https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zaklem,_the_Rune_of_Loyalty

Nayrim dying makes the event fail. Which is a likely threat considering the NPC doing stupid NPC thing like charging into the champion.

Does not spawn the key point though. The second part of the chain (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Escort_Second_Spear_Nayrim_to_potential_shelter) has a variable spawn time after the first event(https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defend_Second_Spear_Nayrim_from_the_Awakened) for some strange reason. I have seen it start ~5m after the first but also ~25m after the first. Dulfy's guide also mentions a 20 min wait.

That last part is the biggest problem. Most and possibly none other event chains in the game works this way. Unless you know then most people will just think it is a bug/yet another broken event and wander off. While it is easy enough to find people to help with doing events in this game, it is not so easy if you are other people think it is simply broken.

4 people should be fine although to be extra safe one of those should be a babysitter for Nayrim on a heal spec. Aegis and barrier would also be ideal to overcap her max HP.

Last but certainly not least is doing it on Daily Desert Highlands Event Completer days then you can ignore pretty much everything except the stupid spawn timer.

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I have to agree. There are several collections that require completing map events that in turn require several players to complete. I've been working on my turtle, and can you believe that no one is doing any of the events needed to complete the final collection. 

I can be patient enough, but I can't help but wonder how a new player is going to be able to aquire what they need. 

There should definitely be some alternatives that can be completed within reason.

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27 minutes ago, Jianyu.7065 said:

I have to agree. There are several collections that require completing map events that in turn require several players to complete. I've been working on my turtle, and can you believe that no one is doing any of the events needed to complete the final collection. 

I can be patient enough, but I can't help but wonder how a new player is going to be able to aquire what they need. 

There should definitely be some alternatives that can be completed within reason.

The only event in that list which might be short on people is the Jade Maw but case it means one or two other people since it scales poorly(more people requires more people doing things correctly) and most of the times when I did that event it was with low number of people.

For the other events ...

Seitung meta is done all the time.
Forever tree events doesn't require other people.
Leviathan is still getting farmed.

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50 minutes ago, Jianyu.7065 said:

and can you believe that no one is doing any of the events needed to complete the final collection.

I cannot. I don't dispute your own experiences, but I didn't have any trouble with the turtle events. Or the Griffon ones. Maybe I just play at prime times? But in general, just speak up in map chat and players are more than willing to show up. As mentioned, tags (mentor or commander) help since it makes it easier for other players to find you.

(Again, in my experience) Veteran players can be very bored and very much enjoy showing up to help people in this game. You can even ask in any of the hubs and some players are likely up for traveling to help you. Just speak up and ask.

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4 hours ago, Khisanth.2948 said:

The only event in that list which might be short on people is the Jade Maw but case it means one or two other people since it scales poorly(more people requires more people doing things correctly) and most of the times when I did that event it was with low number of people.

For the other events ...

Seitung meta is done all the time.
Forever tree events doesn't require other people.
Leviathan is still getting farmed.

I have horrible luck then. 🤷‍♂️

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2 hours ago, Shadowmoon.7986 said:

I think the bigger problem was why PoF has no legs like core Tyria and HoT.

 

HoT legs stretched into season 4 they were so behind on their development. Whilst PoF doesn’t have it’s own legs, it at least added PoF currency as a way to work towards them instead of hot currency 

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1 hour ago, Randulf.7614 said:

HoT legs stretched into season 4 they were so behind on their development. Whilst PoF doesn’t have it’s own legs, it at least added PoF currency as a way to work towards them instead of hot currency 

I can do every event and every meta chain in HoT during prime hours, when was the last time you did maw of torment or court of S?

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22 hours ago, Shi No Nai Hasu.1428 said:

And we also know that no one does them, given that the map is useless to 70% of the playerbase......I just have to WAIT, not grind, like a normal MMO or game, no WAIT.

First off you're wrong that no one does them. Do you think you're the only person doing a collection? You have to wait because people probably did it before you for theirs. And your solution is to make it grindy? lol Heaven forbid a collection has you do varied activities to earn it and to play with others in, gasp, an MMO. 

When you are doing an event, don't just expect people to know where to go. If you want help, help them help you. Get a tag, give directions, guide them to the event, etc.  This reeks of entitlement and the game should not ruin its design to cater to it.

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